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Old 7th Jul 2001, 02:10 PM
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Technical Terms!

I would be very grateful if anyone could tell me any technical terms in riding! I would love to impress my instructor who all ways makes me feel small when I haven't got a clue what she is going on about!
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Old 7th Jul 2001, 03:12 PM
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How about....
The Levade (horse rises on his hind legs at an angle of 30-45º)
The Courbette (horse balances weight on hindquarters and then propels himself forward on his hind feet)
The Capriole (horse leaps from the ground on all four legs then kicks out his hind legs)
I don't know how you'd introduce these but they are all dressage (is it still dressage?) movements performed by the riders of the Lipizzaners in the Spanish riding school of Vienna.
Good luck! You instructor will be amazed!
Liz
(How about after a ride on an excited horse you could say 'Wow, if that horse was any more jumpy we would have done a courbette......' ?)

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Old 7th Jul 2001, 04:57 PM
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qwerty, if they make you feel small by using terms in front of you which you don't understand make them feel just as small by pointing out to them that they are falling short in the instruction department by speaking a different language without explaination.

This is one of by pet hates, using terms in front of novices and beginners without explaining, in plain English, what is meant! One day a bad accident will happen because of "crossed wires" and mis understanding terms. If you mean front left foot say so, near fore takes the layman time to work out what you're on about!

Don't feel small, ask what they mean, then you'll make them realise they are selling you short by not teaching in terms everyone understands!
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Old 8th Jul 2001, 10:29 AM
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I did ask the instructor what she meant last week. We were doing work without stirrups and she told me to go into working trot. I know that is rising but I didn't know how to do it so I asked her. She didn't answer me but told me to just do it!
Is there a technical term for crossing over the stirrups over when you do work without stirrups?
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Old 8th Jul 2001, 11:23 AM
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Simpl y speaking, working trot is the trot you normally do in a lesson. If you do extended trot the horse takes bigger steps, for collected trot you want smaller steps. Working trot is in the middle. You can do it rising or sitting.
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Old 8th Jul 2001, 12:12 PM
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crossing stirrups

Hi!

In answer to your question about technical terms for crossing the stirrups your instructor could use the term:

"quit and cross your stirrups"

Hope i've helped
Karen
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Old 8th Jul 2001, 12:14 PM
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How do you get the horse to do the different types of trot?
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Old 8th Jul 2001, 07:04 PM
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Different Stages Of The Trot

To get your horse to vary his trot (collected trot, extended trot) involves the use of leg, weight, seat and hand aids.

For example, to get your horse into a collected trot (shortening his stride, lightening his forehand, rounding his body) you would half halt with your legs (squeeze with your legs, but keep your hands still with contact on the reins). This allows the horse to round himself under you, and work forwards more activley and postively. This is called collection.
I'm not sure about extended trot, because collected trot and working trot are the only trots I do with Mac, because he has trouble collecting himself, so I'm not too worried about extending his trot, yet.....until he learns to collect himself, that is!

Anyways, just ask you teacher to explain certain things more clearer and in-depth to you. She'll have to eventually, or else you'll still be continually confused and "not doing as she wants".

Good Luck, Hope This Helped!
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Old 8th Jul 2001, 08:33 PM
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Hi All

If you think about the hindlegs as springs then collection is about asking the springs to compress and then for extension you release the springs to allow the energy to convert into bigger steps. This is why collection should come before extension.

If you need any more technical expressions just let me know.
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Old 8th Jul 2001, 08:53 PM
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Talking in a language that your student does not understand and you know they do not understand is just plain rude!!
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Old 11th Jul 2001, 06:03 PM
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Kaz

Today, at the end of the lesson, I was told to quit stirrups. Looking at your earlier post, does that just mean take your feet out? I didn't know what she meant so I sat there like a lemon!
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Old 12th Jul 2001, 02:11 PM
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Stirrups

Hi!

errrmmmm!!! i'm not to sure on that one!! I think I would have to assume that yes, she did mean to just take your feet out of the stirrups since she didn't actually tell you to cross them.

I agree with Mossy on this one though! She should make sure you understand what she is saying.

Also when crossing your stirrups you should cross the right one over first and then the left one. This is so that if you dismount (planned or otherwise!) while 'stirrupless' you only have to pull over the stirrup that you need to get on with. Also to make it more comfortable before you cross them over you should pull the stirrup leather buckle down about half way to stop it digging into your leg.

Looking back over your post, could she have been telling you to take your feet out of the stirrups in preparation for dismounting?

Hope i've helped
Karen
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Old 12th Jul 2001, 05:12 PM
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Yes, quit you stirrups is take out feet and put them over the front, but why they can'y say "pop across your stirrups" I don't know!
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Old 12th Jul 2001, 07:59 PM
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When she said quit your stirrups she didn't want me to cross them just dismount! (Ididn't know that at the time though!)
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