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Old 18th Mar 2006, 02:26 AM
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Endurance / Long distance Trek

I am planning/dreaming about doing a long distance trek in 2008. Has anyone else on here ever done this?

I have lots of questions I would love to ask someone who has experience with camping out with there horses and trekking for longer than a few days.

The trek I want to do goes from Queensland to Victoria in Australia. It is 5000km and takes roughly 6-12 months.

I have brought all the guide books and has been making budgets and time tables for the trip, I've also been saving money as it's going to be very expensive.

Some question I have that you might be able to answer are:

How many km should to travel in a day?
What sort of saddle and equipment should you use and where do you get it from?
What are your options for stopping the horses leaving during the night?
How many horses should one person take? ( I don’t want to go alone but I may if i cant find anyone.)
Where would be a good place to look for someone else to do the trail with me?
Does anyone know about getting sponsorship for such rides? (I want to raise money for a charity if possible)
Any other information or maybe I could contact people privately and discuss things.

Thanks
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Old 18th Mar 2006, 05:06 AM
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Hey mate. If I'm in the country then, I'll do it with you! You could take out a free classified ad in the back of horsedeals, and on various other horsemags.

There's an american trail riders magazine that does heaps of this kind of long-distance trekking (Can't remember what it's called, but I bought it from the newsagency in the city near cnr Collins St & William St, next to maccas).

Saddle - a really well fitting one!! You'll want to pre-book saddle fitters, farriers & vets along the route. If it were me, I'd look at a treeless one (but I want one anyway!). But you'd want something as light as you can get it, but one that you can attach a fair amount of stuff to - there's a Wintec Endurance saddle. It has lots of D rings, etc. You may have to design some kind of over-sized saddle bags too.

Horses - If it were me going on my own, I would take two. One to ride & one to carry the stuff. But interchange them. So you might also consider a pack-saddle. If you call one of the Alpine trail riding outfits, I think they use pack-saddles (I've seen photos on one of the websites). Along with this, you'll need to practise precise packing strategies to ensure that both sides of the pack-saddle weigh the same. I have seen an Aussie site with stuff about this, but can't remember where.

If you were going with two ppl, you'll have to assess between each other how light you can pack & see if you can get away with 3 horses between you.

Distance per day - There was a huge trail in Queensland that went from somewhere up north down to Brissie... I'll see if I can find the link. I saw part of a doco on them. They had one crazy woman that walked the whole way. She'd leave every morning before the horses & get to each camp after them! NUTS!! You could drop in and out of the trail where you wanted, but all the people that had done it from start to finish rode into town in red blazers. It was cool. They had all up nearly 1000 riders from memory. Only about 10 did the whole thing. Found the website...
http://www.kilkivangreathorseride.info/

Sponsorship - A group here in WA rode from ??? to Kalgoorlie to raise money for breast cancer research. There was about 10 riders. I don't know if they got 'sponsorship' in the form of cash, or rather they organsied people to donate feed & things like that at each town. I'll see if I can track it down. It was in the local paper a few months ago. They also collected funds along the way & organised with local community groups to hold BBQs when they rode into town.

Other info - you might consider support vehicles? Especially for more remote places where water would be difficult to get. You'll need collaspable buckets too - you know the plastic ones that I've wanted forever (for not other reason than they're cool!) I've seen them for sale somewhere recently.

Websites:
Alpine riding in Vic... which trails you can use & some advice (such as in many places, u can't use hay, only processed hard feeds, to control the spread of weeds)
http://www.parkweb.vic.gov.au/resources/05_0515.pdf

A place to buy your long-distance tack...
http://www.performance-equestrian.com/

Someone's own account of part of the trail ridden...
http://www.triffidpark.com.au/htm_pa...onal_trail.htm

Other:
http://www.kilkivangreathorseride.info/

Sponsorship/fundraising - a chick rode 250km for the Fred Hollows foundation.
http://fred-hollows.e-newsletter.com...page.html?ib=1

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Old 18th Mar 2006, 08:55 AM
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A family from my pony club did the Bicenennial Trail, going from Canberra to QLD one year then Canberra to Melbourne another year. They used pack horses and found the going pretty tough, especially some of the Victoria trails. They also had their mares stolen by brumbies, so I would suggest good portable electric fences! There are camping places along the trail and also some farms allowed them to stay on their places.

I'd approach Peter Cochrane about long distance riding. He does overnight trail riding as a business, but has done a whole heap of long distance stuff, and is the coordinator for the Snowy Mountains part of the BT. Here are their contact details

Peter and Judy Cochran
"Yaouk"
Adaminaby NSW 2630
Ph- (02) 6454 2336
Fax- (02) 6454 2936
info@cochranhorsetreks.com.au
riverman@snowy.net.au

I'll come too as long as you explain it to my family and pay me a similar wage that I'm on now! No, seriously, I may be able to accompany you from Adaminaby to Canberra, if you give me a heap of notice and want to ride slowly with a middle aged fat woman and her daughter.

Cheers,

Missfliss
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Old 18th Mar 2006, 01:41 PM
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A wonderful jumping off point is to go to www.endurance.net there is TONS of info there as it is the north american "hub" for endurance enthusiasts. In north america there is also the long riders association who have tons of info. I realize neither is australian - but I suspect the info on saddles, tack camping, feeding etc etc etc it really does go on forever will be helpful in your planning

SOunds like a really amazing trip!
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Old 18th Mar 2006, 10:34 PM
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lol!! MissFliss - she'll be accompanied by a fat, mid-twenties woman, so there's no issues there! ROFL!!
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 07:03 AM
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Thanks Guys, I haven't looked at the links yet but I will get around to it this week.

I was planning on taking three horses, one for riding one for the pack and one as a spare. I would then interchange them and give them all rest days from carrying stuff.

If there were two people then I would have two riding horses, two pack horses and one spare.

The BNT website has lots of great information (BNT WEB SITE) and the guidebooks are broken up into a recommended days ride, but some are only 7km. I could imagine doing that in an hour. The BNT group recommend this place for getting gear and also sell gear themselves

There is also a great website called the long riders guild. I sent them an email and they said they are happy to help with information and that when I had done the trail they would dedicate a page on there site to my trip.

Anyone who would like to come along for just a few days or weeks is most welcome. If I could get a string of people that would be great.

I'll hold you to that Entreat, I really want you to come. So expect pestering, LOL.

MissFliss - I'll sign you on for the Adaminaby to Canberra, I'll email you about dates closer to the time but I should be able to give you at least 6 months warning. You can decide then if you want to come, it would be great to have you.
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 08:14 AM
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Cool!! We'll be looking forward to it!!
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Old 19th Mar 2006, 06:27 PM
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Wow what a dream to bring to reality - needless to say I am green as anything. Good luck with all your plans.
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