Banner Design by Maria McKenna - Click for Home
Click for Home
 
 

Go Back   New Rider Message Board > Main Arena > Natural Horsemanship

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 7th Nov 2006, 09:30 PM
NoviceNic's Avatar
NoviceNic NoviceNic is offline
Sexy Dressage Pony
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: On my horses back...
Posts: 10,290
Progress and Questions

I have good things to report. I led Captain passed an old pony eating his breakfast this morning. No tantrums or dragging me to the bucket and all still with a loose lead rope.

He has now got company. It is the YO's trusty cob and old faithful pony. The cob is grazing next to Captain and they can touch each other and groom and nuzzle over the tape. The old faithful is wandering free in the field and often stands with Captain at his field over night. Arrrr.


Just a couple of small questions really:

Captains grazing is now down so when I take him out of his area to walk him back to the stable the first thing he does is put his head down to munch on the non grazed areas. Also when I practise our stand and wait he drops his head and completely takes all attention off me. So I am keeping on eye on the gate and on eye on the munching piggy. I am flicking the rope around and saying No Head Up. Should I be using an easier command??

I have had a couple of incidences when he has walked over to me in the field with his head down and trying to shove me out of the way.. This has happened twice since Thursday.. I stand my ground and growl and push him away. Basically I am telling him that if he is going to be bad mannered then I dont want to stroke or pamper him. He then walks away and completely blanks me. This I presume is another test.. Have I passed.??

I have noticed that he now doesnt look me in the eye as much. He will often have his head turned away as I am talking to him or fussing him. Is this a good sign??

Sorry for the questions I am just one of those people that always seem to want to know the answer to changes in behaviour... Of course I am aware that there is sometimes not an answer but the more I learn the more I love horses.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 8th Nov 2006, 08:09 AM
Yann's Avatar
Yann Yann is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire
Posts: 13,246
Good news indeed I would imagine now he has some company and will chill out as a result you'll see even more improvement

Quote:
Captains grazing is now down so when I take him out of his area to walk him back to the stable the first thing he does is put his head down to munch on the non grazed areas.
Personally, at this stage I wouldn't let him choose to graze at all, he's abandoning you for the grass and taking matters into his own hands again which is something you need to discourage. Anticipating the dive and heading it off is preferable to fighting to get his head back up. Keep him walking politely with you all the way. Later on when things are established you can choose to let him graze - but it's got to be your shout.

Quote:
I have had a couple of incidences when he has walked over to me in the field with his head down and trying to shove me out of the way
He's testing you as you're well aware. I'd personally send him off in no uncertain terms here, don't wait for him to come into your space, make eye contact and yourself big, smack the leadrope on your coat and swing it if necessary. Go soft once he turns away and go and give him a fuss.

Quote:
I have noticed that he now doesnt look me in the eye as much. He will often have his head turned away as I am talking to him or fussing him. Is this a good sign??
Less easy to say, it sounds like a good sign in terms of the fact it might be submissive behaviour, but you can have too much of a good thing sometimes.

Quote:
I am just one of those people that always seem to want to know the answer to changes in behaviour.
Fascinating isn't it
__________________
Yann

'A singular body and a noble spirit, the principal whereof is a loving and dutiful inclination to the service of man' Edward Topsel
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 8th Nov 2006, 01:16 PM
Tootsie4U's Avatar
Tootsie4U Tootsie4U is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: PA, USA
Posts: 5,659
Yann's already covered it but I just wanted to add that when my pushy gelding dives for grass I take the end of my lead rope and spin it at his hindquarters. This makes him circle around me. It doesnt take long for him to realize that *just* walking is a lot easier than trotting circles if he tries to snatch a snack along the way.

Sometimes though, after the really bad diving is resolved, he still needs a reminder so I just slightly bop his lead up when I suspect he's going to dive. I dont pull and dont hold the line shorter, I just bop it upwards so he can feel it in his head collar. Kind of like a 'warning'.

Allow him to come toward you as long as he's showing submission. You never want to discourage their willingness to be caught or come near. As he comes closer, make sure you then take initiative to invite him in so its on your terms. The key is to be sure to ask BEFORE he takes it upon himself to come in. (hopefully that makes sense) Correct only the shoving if it happens. Break it up into two parts. You want him to come to you. You dont want him to shove you.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:56 PM.

Site Links

Site Home
Classifieds
Competition
Holidays
Riding Schools
Kinder Way
Dictionary
Starting Out
Western
Side-saddle
Library
Other Bits
Advertising
Contact Us

 
New Rider
Newsletter

Join our newsletter list here

 
 

The must-have DVD for horse owners! Understand your horse better & communicate more effectively.
 

At Court Equestrian an ABRS Riding School near Worcester

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © New Rider 2009  
Although the administrators and moderators of New Rider will respond to keep objectionable or abusive messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and the owners of New Rider will not be held responsible for the content of any message. Please report any objectional posts to us and we will respond as soon as possible.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.
The owners of New Rider reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.