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ebonyallen

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Hi every one,
It has been brought to my attention that they are going to try and stop the DLA , I was sent the attached email with the information on it and also it gives you the chance to sign up and try and stop these people, I know on this site there are many different people with many different dissabilities and could be effected by this. Please read and sign up and pass it on to as many people as you know who might receive it.

I can not believe that they could even try to consider this and I am so mad, as per the norm a bunch of able bodied people sat at their desks thinking that they might have any idea of what we all have wrong with us and what our day to day lives are I am so mad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope the link works come on people lets get together and give them what for .:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/disability-living-allowance-(dla)/dla-aa-cuts
If the link does not work please let me know

Chroissie
 
Just signed it but would love to see how I would come out in the transfer. I receive the lower care payment (I think that is the part I get). I theory this is to cover the cost of one main meal being prepared daily. Lucky for me but my mum does not charge me the £2.20 or so a day I get. I would love to see SC getting home meals delivered for that sort of money. I can't see SC wanting the payments as they would cost more to admminister than actually gain. No one really gets the indervidual care budgets anyway with out making it kore complicated.
Ta for letting us know about the westminster plans
 
am on a disability forum,which has a lot of experts on this stuff so have managed to sign it before.

This one is a better petition:
http://www.politicalcripple.com/d/c...ity-living-allowance-and-attendance-allowancehttp://www.politicalcripple.com...
It closes in november,and is being handed [in paper version] to the prime minister that month.

if this happens,it will take away choice and life quality from us,and also severely restrict those of us on HRM and motability.
It's almost like they want us all stuck in the house not getting out,being disabled is not breaking the law.
 
Have you noticed how our government penalises good law abiding, tax paying, easily traceable people who genuinely need these benefits and leaves all the scumbags to get away with everything. You can bet genuine people who need DLA won't get it but all the waste of spaces who are claiming fraudulently or just can't be arsed getting a job will get round it with some other benefit. (rant over, if i don't stop now i could go on forever)
Have signed
Let's hope that it's not stopped
 
pharoah said:
Have you noticed how our government penalises good law abiding, tax paying, easily traceable people who genuinely need these benefits and leaves all the scumbags to get away with everything. You can bet genuine people who need DLA won't get it but all the waste of spaces who are claiming fraudulently or just can't be arsed getting a job will get round it with some other benefit. (rant over, if i don't stop now i could go on forever)
Have signed
Let's hope that it's not stopped
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Agrees.

but the majority of frauds are not claiming DLA-it's IS and IB.
DLA is the hardest benefit to be awarded [due to the amount of evidence,backup and medicals needed],it's the benefit with the lowest fraud rate,and,
"Fraud accounts for far less that Official Errors, Underpayment and even under claiming due to client error."
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People dont get DLA because they dont want to or cant work-as it's based on the support needs have got,rather than ability to work.
IS and IB are both the unable to work due to sickness or disability based benefits,but they are supposed to be a lot harder to get now as they were merged to make ESA.

Another thing with DLA is it can take years for people to get the correct award,it's not an easy way to benefits.
the stories about frauds wrongly give the idea that HRM
is only for people with severe physical disability,and that people are not allowed to work if able to whilst getting DLA,
as they wrongly group DLA with IS and IB.
 
What is HMR sorry if I am being thick?
I get DLA and I work, I had know idea it was difficult to be awarded DLA if you have a disability and the evidence. I have to say any help or support I have requested is not supported by the DLA award. I was under the impression I would have to go for ICB and stop working (and having horses) to have any other support. That is not about to happen any time soon as the ponies get me up and out each morning and the work pays for the ponies with out either I would not do anything I am sure of that.
 
First of all thanks to everyone who has signed up. Junniberry sorry I do not know what that is either I get the middle rate DLA, and am on IB as I am unable to work.
It seems to me that if they change this system we or I know that I would be sat around all day waiting for someone to come to my house and help me, rather than having my family and friends who do all of this for me, which means that even given my disability I do have some sort of life rather than having to wait for someone to turn up to help me with my day to day needs, the trouble is they have no idea of what we require and need how do you tell someone that if you do not get to see your horse then you have no life at all, because most days if I did not have her I would not want to get out of bed and if I had to wait on them I would just be stuck in my house, sorry to rant but it makes me so cross.
 
My son has adhd and we get dla for him, i think it is completly wrong and to say they are going to give it to the social services instead...how is that going to help the people who needs it.

I agree with people do try and claim it when they arnt as bad as thy say etc but the people who really do have a disability really do need it.

I am very shocked as i didnt even know they was thinking about this
 
I got an email today stating that DLA WASNT being stopped.... as many people think.... i'll copy and paste it...

It’s been an extraordinary fortnight since this campaign began. So, apologies for the long email, but we want to get everyone caught up.

AA & DLA WON’T END ON 13 NOVEMBER
Firstly, we want to make it absolutely clear that AA and DLA are not going to be abolished on 13 November, because some people seem to have got that impression.

We’re asking you to make your voice heard before the green paper consultation period ends on 13 November because, if you don’t, it makes it much more likely that disability benefits will be handed over to local authorities at some time in the future.

EMAILING DISABILITY ORGANISATIONS
Over 19,000 people have now signed up to the campaign and last week disability charities were deluged with emails after we asked campaigners to contact them and ask what they are doing about this issue. So much so that after a few days we had to ask you to stop sending emails, as they were simply being met with standard responses and were very unlikely to even be being read.

But you got the message across in astonishing numbers and with extraordinary speed and effectiveness. It is very unlikely that there is a disability charity in the UK that is not highly aware of this issue and also aware that their members are watching how they deal with it. You can read more about this at:

www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/latest-news/1097-stop-press-charities-left-reeling-by-your-response

We think it would be excellent if as many disability charities as possible were monitored over the coming months to check the degree to which they publicise this issue, consult with their members and respond to the green paper. It’s not something we have the resources to do here. But we’re hoping that groups of claimants with an interest in a particular charity might get together to do this.

The Carer Watch website below has made a forum available for anyone involved in this campaign to use for free, you don’t have to be a Benefits and Work member. You might want to try to meet up there with people with an interest in the same organisation.

CONTACT YOUR MP
This week we’re asking you to contact your MP and/or regional assembly member and ask them what they are going to do about this issue.

Once again, we’re not going to provide a standard letter because we think that will be taken a great deal less seriously than your personal opinions. But some of the things you might want to include are:

Tell your MP that you are concerned about proposals in the green paper to hand disability benefits over to local authorities.

Would the proposals make you less independent or affect your quality of life?

Ask them to ask the secretary of state for work and pensions to provide a precise list of which benefits may be affected now or at some time in the future. You might also want to ask for an explanation of why such unclear terms were used in the green paper when people’s future is at stake and they are supposedly being consulted with.

If your MP isn’t Labour, ask them what their party’s policy on this matter is.

Whatever party they belong to, ask them if they are prepared to give an assurance that they personally will vote against any plan to transfer funding from attendance allowance or disability living allowance to local authority control.

Would you vote for another party if you thought they would be less likely to cut your benefits? If so, tell your representative. – they may be interested to hear that.
 
juniberry said:
What is HMR sorry if I am being thick?
I get DLA and I work, I had know idea it was difficult to be awarded DLA if you have a disability and the evidence. I have to say any help or support I have requested is not supported by the DLA award. I was under the impression I would have to go for ICB and stop working (and having horses) to have any other support. That is not about to happen any time soon as the ponies get me up and out each morning and the work pays for the ponies with out either I would not do anything I am sure of that.
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juniberry,
sorry-are not thick-am used to using benefit/disability code as have been using a disability forum for years,forget to switch that off when come on here.
HRM is high rate mobility/the highest mobility component of DLA.

as a worker are probably in the group that gets the worst deal with DLA-along with people able to work,as this country seems to quick to judge anyone working with DLA,the country isnt very understanding on disability and DLA overall.

am hope do not end up struggling more with the cost of the ponies over this.

am get HRC/HRM [for severe non physical disabilities] and use it all for towards care,specialist care,equipment etc related stuff and waiting to off the full HRM on motability, though get RDA lessons funded by social services/council.
councils are already complete cr... for funding things for peoples needs,so disabled people really need to make a fuss over this, whether the people that run the country are including dla or just AA.

ebonyallen-agree as well.
 
thanks for letting us all know. I had no idea. I get the middle rate and i dont think i could do without it!!

God im so annoyed. You get people on the dole (some have a genuine reason i know and then you get the others) who do naff all and get everything payed for, yet they take money from one group of people, who out of everyone, probably needs it most!!
 
I applied for DLA and was turned down..... I had a large hole in the heart closed last September, I had a TIA in March and now a large blood clot that is blocking my right heart chamber and also another few TIAs. The doctor who came out from DLA said in his report I had a clot in my lung!!!! I think I need to have a heart failure before I qualify for DLA :):mad:
 
tonette said:
I applied for DLA and was turned down..... I had a large hole in the heart closed last September, I had a TIA in March and now a large blood clot that is blocking my right heart chamber and also another few TIAs. The doctor who came out from DLA said in his report I had a clot in my lung!!!! I think I need to have a heart failure before I qualify for DLA :):mad:
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tonette,
on the disability forum am use,there is a user who has mentioned having TIAs recently as well,and they have been told they will not be able to get DLA because TIAs are thought to improve before the minimum amount of months needed to be disability-if that is what the benefits people go by will have to really fight with all the proof and evidence have got,if its lasted longer.

have a look at the ouch forum on the bbcs site if would like some help with benefits/find others with the same dla problems.
 
Dla

blimey i was shocked to see this. My youngest daughter who is 29 is on full rate mobility and middle rate care for an auto immune illness similar to reumatoid arthirits. She suffers terribly from flare ups and is on so many tablets etc without this money whe would be well and truly stuck. She is unable to work and is only on income support as she developed this illness the year after she qualified as a design animator from university and had not enough stamps etc. She also gets the disability premium and a portion of care allowance. Her horse (which is a rescue case a bit like her) is her only enjoyment, there are many days she is unable to go to the yard, without this i dont know what she would do.

Just as a pointer i noticed there were a few of you having difficulty claiming DLA if any of you are about the same age as me ssshhhh 55 you can get help from your local Age Concern office - they are great, you may have to wait in a que for while but it is well worth it.
 
PoweredByHorses said:
Agrees.

but the majority of frauds are not claiming DLA-it's IS and IB.
DLA is the hardest benefit to be awarded [due to the amount of evidence,backup and medicals needed],it's the benefit with the lowest fraud rate,and,

People dont get DLA because they dont want to or cant work-as it's based on the support needs have got,rather than ability to work.
IS and IB are both the unable to work due to sickness or disability based benefits,but they are supposed to be a lot harder to get now as they were merged to make ESA.

Another thing with DLA is it can take years for people to get the correct award,it's not an easy way to benefits.
the stories about frauds wrongly give the idea that HRM
is only for people with severe physical disability,and that people are not allowed to work if able to whilst getting DLA,
as they wrongly group DLA with IS and IB.
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I don't know where you get this from. IB required an awful lot of medical evidence, plus regular medicals (potentially one every six months). It is not an 'easy' benefit to get, and never was.
I know the media suggested you just had to ask and you'd get IB when the recent changes (ESA) were introduced, but that is just laughable. In fact, originally IB was introduced specifically and only for the purpose of halving the number of people on invalidity benefit.

Everything you say about DLA goes for IB and disability-related IS too, IMO. It doesn't help anyone to start suggesting that some types of disability benefit are claimed only by fraudsters and others are not.

If anything, I would say DLA is probably very attractive to fraudsters as IB on its own isn't really enough to live on. However, if DLA is added on then it can be possible to live.
 
I can't believe this!

I actually hate the "benefits" system so much right now it is unbelievable!!! There are loads of people out there who desperately need and deserve benefits to have a roof over their head and some food to eat and generally i know a lot of people who do not get them but should!!! On the other hand, having lived in a bad area of glasgow for over a year, i heard plenty of stories about people who weren't actually ill and unable to work but who would make up stories and claim whatever benefits they could get their hands on and they got away with it. It sickens me to think that disabled people who need the money to have a good quality of life (whether its buying equipment, paying for help at home or taxis etc) could possibly have the rug pulled from under their feet.

I'm wondering what they will suggest people who receive DLA/AA should do when they don't have that money coming in...just curl up in bed and remain there for the rest of their lives!?! If they take it away then it'll come back and bite them on the bum as the cost will just show up somewhere else...possibly the NHS....or maybe they'll make us pay for that too...

GRRRRR

:mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
I get DLA because I have spina bifida & arthritis. Without DLA Id never have been able to get my mobility scooter which gave me a lot of independence back. I'd be stuck without it, as it pays for transport to hospital appointments (2 hour journey there & back) etc etc. Im hoping to start driving soon to up my independence even more & obviously will be using motability. Just told my Gran about this & she said "they wouldnt dare do that" so hoping it doesn't come to it! :eek: What about those who cannot physically get out of bed and need carers etc? special equipment? I just dont see how it could be justified??? The sad thing is a lot of people who are genuine will miss out and those who are severely disabled will suffer, I have a friend who has a severe disability & it sickens me to think she will miss out on something that makes her quality of life so much better. :(
 
I am pleased to see that I am not the only one who is ouDtraged by this, when I filled in my last forms and sent them back to the DLA they decieded that I was not disabled enough and dropped my claim down to the lower rate, I lost my leg above the knee and just because I did not say what they wanted to read on the form they dropped my money right down, I took them to a tribunal and won and was put back on the middle rate, and guess what the forms have turned up again for me to fill in and no doubt I will not write down what they want to read in answer to their question so another fight agin might have to happen.
Another thing not sure if this happens to anyone else but every other year I have some one come to the house to make sure I am still disabled and I can not help myself now and say to them YES AS YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR LAST VISIT MY LEG HGAS NOT GROWN BACK !!!!

As people have said some people seem to claim and get everything paid for and the ones that really do need the help and to fight to prove it.
 
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