And she's lame

In my completely non-expert opinion I agree with @Kite_Rider , she looks to be loading the RF more to me. But the fact that she looks more uncomfortable than the amount of lameness she's showing on LF makes me wonder if she is indeed uncomfortable in more than one leg/foot, especially as you've mentioned before how stoic she is. What's she like on a circle? I think your plan of removing the new hay and then reassessing is a good one. She is such a sensitive soul isn't she?
 
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That was what I thought, initially LF then perhaps more than one leg. She doesn't appear worse on turns but is grimacing so I know something hurts. I think it was the neck to the left that makes me think it's more than just the LF. She is the most sensitive beast but also stoic, it makes it so hard. I think I'm going to book the vet for early next week and beg my farrier friend to come out over the weekend just to cover all bases. The wrapped hay has been stopped and they're just on the normal stuff now, thankfully I was only giving it as a top up net so it's not an issue just stopping it.
 
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Turns out my vet isn't on holiday this week, she just forgot to update her status thingy, so videos sent and hopefully we will have a plan soon.
 
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I just spoke with my vet, she'd looked at the video's and confirmed LF, possibly both fore's and the tiniest touch on the right hind. She feels the LF is the old problem, and she's not concerned with the RH for now and wants me to get the farrier to see and go from there.

After talking over everything that's gone on the last 2 weeks we have a plan for going forward; take away the extra hay and do another round of psyllium in a couple of weeks, then when we do jabs in the new year we will re-assess and run a full blood profile (inc. liver fluke). The colic, plus the weight loss, not re-gaining very well, the swellings and the sudden improvement in energy levels after the last psyllium course could all possibly be to do with low protein from inflamed leaky gut from sand :( My gut says she's onto something with this, fingers crossed.
 
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Looking at those I really wouldn't want to say - there's a head nod that suggests front but to me she looks more wrong behind. Will you hate me if I say I'd want to see her moving in a more active trot than that? She's only jogging there which makes it very hard to see anything.
 
Looking at those I really wouldn't want to say - there's a head nod that suggests front but to me she looks more wrong behind. Will you hate me if I say I'd want to see her moving in a more active trot than that? She's only jogging there which makes it very hard to see anything.
Not at all :) I appreciate your comments, it's difficult to get a more active trot in hand as she was shown western in hand from very young and a jog is all that is allowed and it's always stuck with her :) I won't make it there in daylight today or tomorrow but will try and get another vid at the weekend.
 
Well there's definite pink patches in the right hind frog, and both are tender. Farrier is coming Saturday morning, a full set of shoes may be in order to get her comfortable so we can get to the bottom of this. I just want her comfortable, she was pretty grumpy tonight :(
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When I posted I somehow missed that you'd got hold of the vet. Her theory makes a lot of sense to me, I've seen several horses that would look like they were moving wrong but it looked to be everywhere only for it to be an uncomfortable gut. Interesting.

It's a shame about the trained jog in hand, it must make assessing difficult for you. Will she trot on the lunge, or is that jog too? Mind you at least you don't have my problem of not being able to run fast enough and praying you don't lose her!
 
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It's a bit training and a bit their natural way of going, she definitely defaults to it more when she's sore. She will normally trot on the lunge, but as sore as she appears it might just turn into a tantrum. Haha yes not having to match a big trot is much easier.

I was lucky to win a tub of protexin last night at our feed stores open evening so she'll be getting that now too.
 
Farrier this morning, wish us luck! I am really, really hoping he says 'yep shoes will sort her out', then I can focus on the other gripes.
 
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Good luck! A good farrier is worth his weight in gold, they see and can help with so much. I can't help thinking that if you can get her comfier on her sore hinds then a fair bit of the rest will sort itself out.
 
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Good news and meh. Farrier looked, relooked, watched her move, ummed and ahhed, even phoned a friend, but concluded that it is just her thin soles and that shoeing would do more harm than good at this point, due to a few things but predominantly longer trim cycles and our ground meaning shoes won't get her soles off the ground. So he tweeked her trim a tiny bit and suggested booting as much as possible while keratexing and sorting her belly. He was pretty confident there isn't a laminitis concern. So not much further forward but not anything bad either.
 
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Good news and meh. Farrier looked, relooked, watched her move, ummed and ahhed, even phoned a friend, but concluded that it is just her thin soles and that shoeing would do more harm than good at this point, due to a few things but predominantly longer trim cycles and our ground meaning shoes won't get her soles off the ground. So he tweeked her trim a tiny bit and suggested booting as much as possible while keratexing and sorting her belly. He was pretty confident there isn't a laminitis concern. So not much further forward but not anything bad either.

As you say nothing bad but nothing forward. But glad to read it wasn't something really awful all the same.
 
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Ruling out laminitis is a step forward in my opinion, and a huge relief.

If, when her tummy has been sorted, she's still struggling despite tweaks and booting would it be worth discussing shoeing with pads and putty with him? I used this approach with great success with Jim and due to laminitis his soles were dropped so they were level with his wall and without them he was dreadful - we knew we'd never cure him, it was a case of buying him quality time. And we have a similar arrangement (different type of pad) on Little Un.
 
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Ruling out laminitis is a step forward in my opinion, and a huge relief.

If, when her tummy has been sorted, she's still struggling despite tweaks and booting would it be worth discussing shoeing with pads and putty with him? I used this approach with great success with Jim and due to laminitis his soles were dropped so they were level with his wall and without them he was dreadful - we knew we'd never cure him, it was a case of buying him quality time. And we have a similar arrangement (different type of pad) on Little Un.
Yes I definitely would have the conversation again with him, he's a really good old school farrier who does a lot on gut/experience, and genuinely one of the kindest people you ever met, I really trust his opinion.
No lami is very reassuring, I'm relieved on that front for sure.
 
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