From this article I gather none of them are connected to each other.
We get flu every year.From this article I gather none of them are connected to each other.
Is this just a usual pattern of flu outbreaks being highlighted now due to media attention? Alot of the horses mentioned are not vaccinated.
Realistically though we can't vaccinate them all. There are horses for whom the vaccine really is too high risk, and then there are the wild herds too. And we can't even enforce a decent standard of care in far too many cases, so how would we enforce a vaccination programme?Couldn't agree more, I think all horses should be vaccinated, but I'm not sure we need to start vaccinating them every 6 months unless they come into contact with alot of other horses as it then reduces the amount of time they are contagious and lessens the spread.
Okay taking those groups into account, would the virus survive if most of the horse population was vaccinated?Realistically though we can't vaccinate them all. There are horses for whom the vaccine really is too high risk, and then there are the wild herds too. And we can't even enforce a decent standard of care in far too many cases, so how would we enforce a vaccination programme?
I believe it can only mutate when in a host and if the majority of horses were vaccinated their bodies would eliminate the virus before it had a chance?Yes it would survive because it mutates & also the vaccine doesn't cover ever strain.
My welsh cob has metabolic issues that have caused laminitis - EMS & IR. If he's vaccinated against flu it causes laminitis within a couple of days & given that he already has severe rotations another bout could easily kill him as it could take him past a point of no return (he's already nearly come through the sole once & x-rays showed he was like a ballerina en pointe). There is nothing that can be given with the vaccine to stop this reaction so the risks really are to great. I've also known a grand prix dressage horse that reacted slightly to 12 monthly jabs die from laminitis when he had to go to 6 monthly to meet FEI rules - if the owner had known in advance how badly he'd react to the extra jab he wouldn't have competed FEI. So yes so metabolic horses are at risk from vaccination & i'd be wary of increased vaccination in any horse that shows a reaction to 12 monthly vaccination, plus very old or young horses or ones with a compromised immune system.
All in all, I don't think it's not taking it seriously enough. Even if it were less than 5km, airborne is airborne, so to speak, and we have forest ponies roaming within 200 yds of our yard gate, so not going out would be a futile gesture really. I agree, taking sensible precautions, such as just monitoring the horses in your care, and any you come in contact with, is all you can do. I was out this morning, and people are hacking as usual.For what it's worth and I'm not trying to play things down here, but, as with humans the animals most likely to suffer from complications are those who already have a weakened immune system or other health issues such as COPD for example.
A normal healthy vaccinated horse probably isn't at any more risk than they would be in any other year, I think a bit of mild panic is setting in over something which yes is potentially life threatening but it's not new.
And yes @carthorse is spot on, flu of any kind be that human, equine, pig, bird whatever is always mutating that's why they give different vaccines each year to try and keep up. If you think about the way a virus works it the virus way of ensuring it's own survival.
There is always going to be a risk of them getting flu, same as with us, the best we can do is take reasonable precautions.
@Huggy if it makes you feel any better I'm still hacking out, we have four livery yards within 5k of us, in fact I ride past two of them regularly depending on which direction I go out, maybe I'm not taking this seriously enough though.
I have kind of the same thoughts about it as I do human flu epidemics, Im in the 'at risk' group and am supposed to be vaccinated every winter, I don't for my own personal reasons but I make sure to eat healthy, live healthy, exercise regularly, wash my hands regularly, if I come into contact with someone who is clearly showing symptoms of a cold or flu I dose up on 'First defense' asap and I cross everything that my body is healthy enough to withstand the worst of it and then I get on with my life.
Exactly like mine. I nearly called the vet out. It looked like colic but it wasn't.One on our yard had a booster yesterday, though her owner was saying it wasn't even 6 months ago she was vaccinated. Today she was really under the weather - heavy laboured breathing, hot to touch, off her hay, shifting on her feet & dull. This is a normally healthy horse who doesn't show a reaction to annual vaccination.