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He may not react to it but be aware they can have a fairly high DE value. Also be aware that different makes can be made from different grasses, I used to use Emerald Green because they didn't include ryegrass.
 

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It says it’s 10. Fast fiber is 8. Soothe and gain, which he really would prefer, is 13.25. Will see if it is rocket fuel!
 

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I left them for about 5hrs today and they didn’t seem to soak much more. He has decided they are edible. I triple checked the ingredients and it is just grass, so surely he can’t react to that!
I used to take a flask of boiled water - does them really quickly.
 

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Luckily there is a kettle provided at yard and I have my own too so boiling water not an issue and probably what I will do in winter for the morning as had got into that routine anyway.
 

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Mine aren’t skinny, but I’m happy to feed a small amount of the grass nuts, DE is 10 but something like fast fiber is still 8 and it’s a battle to get it in them and I need more of it to hide the powders so probably on a par really, I am only feeding a small cup full to the bigguns and a couple of tablespoons to the little guys.
 

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These are the Emerald Green ones https://emeraldgreenfeeds.co.uk/product/emerald-green-feeds-meadow-magic-pellets-20kg/

They're a bit lower in starch, sugar and DE, but still not what I'd feed a horse that's already fat, though I suppose in the tiniest amount with water added they would do to hide supplements. I'd still stick to just turning the F4F to mush though, particularly if he isn't hungry either.
I see if feed store has that. I’m using the dengie ones as someone at yard had them to be used up. He is getting 1/4 scoop. He was quite happy to eat this this morning. But a great pic but maybe show hue day and how much grass we have. I’m just concerned with ulcers how much fiber he has in tummy. There is no point in trying to feed something he won’t eat.
 

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I'd say that's plenty of grass not to be worrying about ulcers., though if you like a small handful of chaff or some hay before riding would give a bit more protection against acid splash.

I wonder if grass the length yours seems to be is actually better for ulcers than longer grass? With the shorter grass they're grazing and chewing for longer, and it's the saliva produced by grazing and chewing that buffers the constant acid production.
 

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He is not being ridden just now. But when he is he always comes in to a haynet while I groom, tack up and generally faff before riding. He then carries on with his haynet and gets his feed then goes out again. So basically while he is “in” he has hay. Just now he is coming in for a couple of hours while I groom and poo pick (and a little more faffing), gets his feed and goes back out again.
 

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Seriously, I would say that would be quite enough - and I say that as someone who's dealt with ulcers. Look at it another way, he maybe spends 10 minutes eating his feeds, then isn't interested in grazing for the next hour because his tummy is full - that's 50 minutes that he isn't producing any buffer for gastric acid production. But my bigger concern with mine was trying to manage his weight so he didn't get to the point where he was fat and needed dieting, at which point managing fibre needs and weight loss needs (and what he wouldn't eat) became very stressful.
 
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