Will try and keep it short.
Horse is fat! He has always been a good doer and would event be90 with half a scoop low cal chaff and a haynet. (Prior the getting him he was on haylage, calm and condition and Alfa a oil!)
I started him on spillers conditioning fiber one winter as he came in for the winter, was fully clipped and then was turned out again (long story). This suited him a lot and in the summer when I went back to the lo cal he refused to eat it. After about 2 months of stale mate he won and went back to the spillers. I needed him to eat his hoof supplement.
Fast forward to this winter and he had all his issues. His spillers was upped and upped and added linseed until he was getting about 8 times his normal amount!
He then had to get karidox which from prior use was impossible to get in to him. So Allen and page soothe and gain was suggested. Made with warm water it smells irresistible and he had been diagnosed with ulcers and this being an ulcer feed we started on that.
He LOVES it. Abx went down him easy. Weight stabilised and all good.
When he was deemed “well” by the vet he was also deemed “fat” by the vet!
Moved to fast fiber as similar, in terms of a mash, but much lower cal. He is not impressed by it but would eat it with a little soothe and gain.
Switched back to the spillers as I was thinking I would have to go to hospital and easier for yo to feed. A week later his ulcers flaired up. Took him off and he was much happier almost instantly. So I think he is now sensitive to it. The more I fed the start of winter the worse he got. Back to fast fiber.
He is now out over night and been diagnosed with ulcers again. He is so much happier out but now I am concerned about having an empty tummy. Fast fiber in the morning is ignored. Last night he did eat his fast fiber. Tonight it was treated with disgust. Added a little soothe and gain and mint and he ate it.
He is fat too fat tho. If it wasn’t for the ulcers I would simply give his hoof supp and nothing else. But feel he needs something in his tummy. But if he is refusing the feed there must be enough grass to stop him being hungry.
I am slightly anxious about trying new feeds after seemingly sensitive to the conditioning fiber.
Would readigrass be suitable. Or the dengie alternatives? Or grass nuts that I can soak. I need something low calorie but something to fill tummy a bit. Low calorie chaff is ignored. He would much rather eat chocolate than celery, like me. I’m hoping if he ever gets back in to work that will help the weight loss. It dosnt look like much grass but there must be a fair bit as they are always head down.
He gets a hoof supplement and gut balancer that I need to get in to him.
Sorry that for long.
Horse is fat! He has always been a good doer and would event be90 with half a scoop low cal chaff and a haynet. (Prior the getting him he was on haylage, calm and condition and Alfa a oil!)
I started him on spillers conditioning fiber one winter as he came in for the winter, was fully clipped and then was turned out again (long story). This suited him a lot and in the summer when I went back to the lo cal he refused to eat it. After about 2 months of stale mate he won and went back to the spillers. I needed him to eat his hoof supplement.
Fast forward to this winter and he had all his issues. His spillers was upped and upped and added linseed until he was getting about 8 times his normal amount!
He then had to get karidox which from prior use was impossible to get in to him. So Allen and page soothe and gain was suggested. Made with warm water it smells irresistible and he had been diagnosed with ulcers and this being an ulcer feed we started on that.
He LOVES it. Abx went down him easy. Weight stabilised and all good.
When he was deemed “well” by the vet he was also deemed “fat” by the vet!
Moved to fast fiber as similar, in terms of a mash, but much lower cal. He is not impressed by it but would eat it with a little soothe and gain.
Switched back to the spillers as I was thinking I would have to go to hospital and easier for yo to feed. A week later his ulcers flaired up. Took him off and he was much happier almost instantly. So I think he is now sensitive to it. The more I fed the start of winter the worse he got. Back to fast fiber.
He is now out over night and been diagnosed with ulcers again. He is so much happier out but now I am concerned about having an empty tummy. Fast fiber in the morning is ignored. Last night he did eat his fast fiber. Tonight it was treated with disgust. Added a little soothe and gain and mint and he ate it.
He is fat too fat tho. If it wasn’t for the ulcers I would simply give his hoof supp and nothing else. But feel he needs something in his tummy. But if he is refusing the feed there must be enough grass to stop him being hungry.
I am slightly anxious about trying new feeds after seemingly sensitive to the conditioning fiber.
Would readigrass be suitable. Or the dengie alternatives? Or grass nuts that I can soak. I need something low calorie but something to fill tummy a bit. Low calorie chaff is ignored. He would much rather eat chocolate than celery, like me. I’m hoping if he ever gets back in to work that will help the weight loss. It dosnt look like much grass but there must be a fair bit as they are always head down.
He gets a hoof supplement and gut balancer that I need to get in to him.
Sorry that for long.
but appreciate you need to get his supps in. 
) but will turn their noses up at fast fiber, unless I put a few nuts in for texture. They’re not very enthusiastic about any of the low cal chaffs either, it’s hit and miss. But grass nuts (soaked) go down every time or Alfa chaff, not the lowest cal but a handful won’t hurt in the grand scheme of spring grass!
time anyway) and at one point I could hardly use the arm I was injected in as I had pins and needles, almost no strength in it and had to watch what the fingers were doing if I tried to use it! But after 48 hours everything was ok and like you I felt it a small inconvenience given the benefits.