yes they do and then some historical society resurrects them. That aside we supposedly live in a free society where, within the boundaries of the law of the land, we can do pretty well as we please. Over recent times politicians have sought to control the population more and more by legislation to the point where we are heading towards being a nanny state. I for one do not want this. I would sooner allow people that freedom even if i don't agree with it because before long someone will be trying to take away my liberties if we are not careful. I am not speaking for or against hunting here but for civil liberty
yes they do and then some historical society resurrects them. That aside we supposedly live in a free society where, within the boundaries of the law of the land, we can do pretty well as we please. Over recent times politicians have sought to control the population more and more by legislation to the point where we are heading towards being a nanny state. I for one do not want this. I would sooner allow people that freedom even if i don't agree with it because before long someone will be trying to take away my liberties if we are not careful. I am not speaking for or against hunting here but for civil liberty
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I realise this is an old thread...but I have an opinion on it and shall voice it anyway.
If you have a horse who gets het-up about the hunt passing, put it away when they are to come by. It's not the hunt's fault that your horse thinks that it's time to escape and run with the herd - if the hunt were to take responsibility for every single horse whose field it travels past, (one) it would be ridiculous to manage, and (two) it's unnecessary. My horses don't bat an eyelid about the hunt coming past, and my previous horses who did want to jump out were either sectioned-off away from the area where they could jump out, occupied and kept busy doing other things (i.e. feeding), or we borrowed a stable, and later got our own stables.
It's proposterous that the hunt should have to foot the bill, when you can easily find out where they are meeting and act accordingly. It's your horse, not theirs. If your field were flanked by passing lorries, it would hardly be the lorry drivers' fault if your horse escaped.
I think it's time that we wake up and smell the cold, hard scent of responsibility and stop looking to the rest of the world for someone to blame when anything goes slightly adrift of the way we wanted. We are not American - we don't feel the need to sue every person who hasn't sent us a Christmas card in the past two years for our subsequent depression and low spirits...unnecessary poke at the US, I'm sure, but we ARE becoming more and more desperate to blame someone for our own responsibilities and our failiure to fulfil them.
I realise this is an old thread...but I have an opinion on it and shall voice it anyway.
If you have a horse who gets het-up about the hunt passing, put it away when they are to come by. It's not the hunt's fault that your horse thinks that it's time to escape and run with the herd - if the hunt were to take responsibility for every single horse whose field it travels past, (one) it would be ridiculous to manage, and (two) it's unnecessary. My horses don't bat an eyelid about the hunt coming past, and my previous horses who did want to jump out were either sectioned-off away from the area where they could jump out, occupied and kept busy doing other things (i.e. feeding), or we borrowed a stable, and later got our own stables.
It's proposterous that the hunt should have to foot the bill, when you can easily find out where they are meeting and act accordingly. It's your horse, not theirs. If your field were flanked by passing lorries, it would hardly be the lorry drivers' fault if your horse escaped.
I think it's time that we wake up and smell the cold, hard scent of responsibility and stop looking to the rest of the world for someone to blame when anything goes slightly adrift of the way we wanted. We are not American - we don't feel the need to sue every person who hasn't sent us a Christmas card in the past two years for our subsequent depression and low spirits...unnecessary poke at the US, I'm sure, but we ARE becoming more and more desperate to blame someone for our own responsibilities and our failiure to fulfil them.
I think the catholic church has a similar view but relating to something else
lol that's a whole new thread !
Do you not like to think we're slightly more civilised, educated and erm EVOLVED since then though??
Do you not like to think we're slightly more civilised, educated and erm EVOLVED since then though??
I am sure we all have, but going back to someone elses earlier posts everything is becoming so regulated you can't pass comment on anything without fear of the political correct police coming down on you.
Not pro or anti hunt, don't know enough about it, but what I am anti to is being constantly told how to act by others who seemingly know better.
Totally off topic again, but it is a fact that some offices are banning christmas decorations for fear of upsetting certain employees. We live in a christian country this is ridiculous!
Maybe the call to keep hunting by those who love it so much is just as much a cry for keeping alive a long lived British tradition as anything else.
we're slightly more civilised, educated and erm EVOLVED since then though??
But thats not always a good thing.
With you on this one. More often than not though the people doing the "banning" to protect those who might be offended forget to consult those who might be offended to see if that would be the case. I have heard tell of places where Xmas things have been banned to protect other religeons from offence where the people they are trying to protect are saddened by the lack of festive spirit.
Regarding the "christian" country we also live in Britain. The country where if you raise a union flag with planning consent you will more than likely be prosecuted. Compare that to say Greece where if you insult their flag you go to jail and no dount the citizens don't have to ask permission to fly their flag.
This country is going to hell in a hand cart if you ask me.
Have you noticed that the arguement against hunting is being carried on here as if it hadn't been banned?
I think this illustrates my belief that the ban was actually a win for the hunting side.
I think this illustrates my belief that the ban was actually a win for the hunting side.
I think the catholic church has a similar view but relating to something else
Justified War. The morality of war and when war is justified. Don't think they had a hooley in the countryside chasing furries in mind specifically, but you're right, whatever people get up to, it'll be covered in the Catechism !
I quite like the idea of reviving the working class tradition of **** and dog fighting. Neither are endangered and dogs poo everywhere...and I love tradition.
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india
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Let's not forget hare coursing either, like dog fighting it's a working class tradition and if you turn a blind eye to the suffering of the animals involved it's a great day out where you get to meet up with like minded folk and even sample some free lager and beer.
Politicians, I spit on your shoes, depriving the majority of the UK public the right to legally participate in the country's sporting traditions.!!!!!
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....and I am with you on this one. Originally hail from Scotland which is to my mind a far more patriotic place to be, south of the border I think we are losing all identity!
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i think in reality the hunting ban was a huge amount of wasted time, effort and money on everyones behalf.
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india
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I disagree, the ban was and still is a step in the right direction for animal welfare. Admittedly there's loopholes that need to be filled in, but given time this will be done.
Without a doubt, I will be voting labour at every election to hopefully ensure this barbaric sport is never again legalised.
Haha....it's always the townie labour voters who are "more important" than anyone whose village holds fewer than 500 dwellings. They could shout about (and probably change) the fact that people in rural areas get cheaper bus fares into town than they do in the land of suburbia, when in fact, our buses run once a day, and are full-to-bursting...different point entirely, but the fact is that most of the people who are opposed to hunting can't see past the end of their smog-dusted little noses to the wider picture of tradition, community and reality of country life.
If it's something that people enjoy, that brings isolated communities together, and provides a livelihood for those people, why should anyone else interfere with something that is entirely none of their business?
Thank goodness that the hunters take absolutely no notice - watched the rather lovely hunt leave from my yard last weekend, and they were a very happy, very lovely - none-snobby - bunch! God bless free-will and freedom!
If it's something that people enjoy, that brings isolated communities together, and provides a livelihood for those people, why should anyone else interfere with something that is entirely none of their business?
Thank goodness that the hunters take absolutely no notice - watched the rather lovely hunt leave from my yard last weekend, and they were a very happy, very lovely - none-snobby - bunch! God bless free-will and freedom!
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Yet another hunt supporter making assumptions.
Ok, I vote labour, I agree with hunting for food and killing vermin humanely.....and oh yes, and I live in a rural community.
What I DO NOT support is any type of inhumane killing of any animal or hunting purely for pleasure.
So get of your high horse!!!!
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Yann
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This is a classic example of why hunting threads turn nasty, packed with assumptions and innuendo. The thread has lasted as long and been as interesting as it has because people have mostly refrained from this sort of thing. I'm afraid the reality of country life is rather different to the chocolate box one you would like to portray.
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