A dark Blood coming from my horses nostril ? and help?

kellym

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folks,

Im currently really worried about my horse.
My horse last saturday I noticed before work had a small amount ofdark red mucus type blood in his right nostril. It was a very small amount I had never seen before and i took him out on normal hack, on the sunday i went up the blood was still present and i started to get concerned I put him out in field and when brought him in it was gone. On Monday night it had cleared so I exercised him jumping and on Tuesday morning i checked first thing and it was back . I rand my local vet and he came out basically said it was coming from the head area and possibly put it down to possibly a nasal polp / tumour or viral infection. He gave me a five day course of antibiotic trimediazine and told me to see if it cleared. If not they would investigate further,but i didnt seem overly worried.

It is now sunday and he has finished his course and the blood is still present.I am now going to take him to a senior vet in our area to scope him and carry out further tests.

Three things i discussed with my vet was , he has been making this strange grunting noise the last year not overly very intermittent as if he is clearing his nostrils - i confirm this is not a cough but more like a snort. When i say intermittent it s like once a month if that, it has came and went.

2ndly - he got a kick above the eye on the same said three weeks ago which caused alot of swelling in the area it did not require stitches and he made a full recovery

3rdly- his level of health is excemptional he is very bright in the eye alert and full of form so this has stumped me,

I went up this morning and there is slight swelling behind is jaw, up to his ear area on both sides? When the local vet came out the other day he checked his pouches also and felt that wasnt the problem?

Has anyone had similar experiences just before i travel up tomorrow, and i can at least have an idea how serious or worried i should be ? any help appreciated

thank you
 
I'm no expert, but I do know that if an infection has been present for quite a while, a longer dose of antibiotics, may be necessary, to clear it up.
Might be worthwhile, if the vet agrees, to try more antibiotics, rather than go to anymore expense just yet.

If he's happy in himself, hopefully it won't be anything too much to worry about.

Good luck. Hope he's well soon :)
 
thanks

yeah thank you, i have just so many things going through my head my local vet would deal with quite alot of equine cases however is not an equine vet , our nearest is 30 miles away and charges £80.00 per consultation! He came in tonight with a lttle dark blood drizzle down his nose, apart from that his nose is very clean??? its like something is draining im rather baffled plus it is intermittent.
But yes im ring my local vet tomorrow and asking should he now be referred and then going from there!

I shall keep you posted, i feel so sick with worry though i have everything in my head what he could have from tumours to serious viral conditions!!
 
Dont want to worry you but this happened to me and he'd broken his nose - although it was a bit of a giveaway when he wouldn't have his bridle on :o I'd thought it was a burst blood vessel (he does it a lot) but this time it wasn't and it took 2 days to realise - how awful is that :o He was fine though I just felt terrible I hadn't realised :o
 
A result!

Just to let you guys know i took him to equine vet yesterday and after scoping he has viral infection. oddly enough the side which had the dark blood, had actually successfully began to heal . The other side still had quite a bad infection in it so he gave me a seven day course of trimadiazine instead of a five day course which was previously prescribed by my local vet. He done a blood sample on him too:) all came back clear,
When i brought him in he said he may have Guttural pouch mycosis which terrified me but thank goodness it was viral only. When he was scoping him i was near tears you know the way your head rushes onto the worst case scenario! But 2 weeks rest and i hope he shall be fine.I shall not even talk about the vets bills equine insurance to cover vets bills from now on :rolleyes:
 
The Problem persists - Allergies has anyone knowledge?

Hi folks just to let you know my horses nose is still bleeding intermittently:confused: He has been scoped twice since last talking about it and the vet has put it down to a viral infection which is being aggreviated by the horse having an allergy to something???
possibly pollin but we really arent sure, trying to eliminate everything to come up with an answer. Haylage , shavings dust, rather lost. The horse i have previously had stabled most of winter with limited turnout. Since the weather has got better he has had turnout in a small paddock we have and the bleeding has slowed down to a very vague drizzle. Which has been good , but then sunday it had appeared again quite heavy around his nostril , the only thing i gave him night before was haylage which is very good and im working along the basis of that being are cause, thus eliminating it? but has anyone any knowledge of these types of allergies gosh im really lost?
 
I guess what the vet means is that the allergy is causing his nasal passages to be more raw & inflamed than usual. So any viruses / bacterial infections that he's exposed to, have an advantage of easy access - getting to him when they normally wouldn't.

If you're having this crazy, dry, parched spring too, I wonder if the pollen counts are higher earlier & that could be making things worse. Finding out which one(s) the trigger is like finding a needle in a haystack though.

It's good if they scoped twice and didn't find anything too nasty.

Hope things get better soon!
 
HI there, one of my mares had suffered nosebleeds, was scoped and no problems found.....except that she has copd, she never had a cough although had a dischargge.

Witha complete change in stable management - Dust free stable and no hay - out as much as possible and I feed her NAF easy breather every day -She is fighting fit. I have never seen any evidence of COPD other than the initial problem of nosebleed and she is still competing happily at riding club level.

Really hope it all turns out well for your horse - nothing but worry worry worry!
 
Hi Kellym Ive just read your 1st post and I dont know if this is relevent but my horse makes what seems to be the same snorting noise as yours, sort of like a big sniff but in reverse. He only does this in spring and summer and has a tree pollen allergy. He also has a slight grass allergy but this only affects him after a long dry spell when the air is very humid. When its really bad he has been known to get mild nosebleeds but very rarely. I ride him in a nosenet and when turned out he has a full facemask on to filter out the pollen, I also smear vaseline up his nostrils and this seems to stop pollen particles getting in. Ive tried various medications from my vet not to mention several human ones but as yet not found one that works, so am resigned to managing it rather than curing it.
 
the symptoms you describe are very similar to my horses. The bleeding has gone on intermittently if you read my first posting for about a month and a half and i have went from standard stand in, in the stable which he has most of winter due to limited turnout to full turnout at the moment. The horse has been out three days so far and the nostril seems to be clear in question but time will tell. Over the last year he has been doing this odd snort very occasional not really before or after exercise but just maybe once a month. Like he is trying to clear his throat. It came to a head, march when the blood started streaming from the nostril and he was treated with Trimediazine Plain on a five day course extended to a seven day course by Bruce steele an equine vet i referred too a week later for scoping etc,
He said his lungs where grand , and the heomoraging had quite successfully healed on the side he was bleeding and the infection, he anticipated within 14 days the bleeding would stop and advised against exercise he was not overally concerned and he is one of the best vets in ireland we have.
14 days later the horse was in an nights and out through day but it persisted and i contacted him again and he said bring him up again , and all he could put it down to was allergy and elimination process on my behalf. so Leo is now out all the time and no haylage which im putting down as the main aggreviation. The odd thing was in the odd dry spell there i went down to field and his cheeks where actually swollen on either side he looked like a hampster, I phoned vet and he said horses dont have glands there , that is odd? and i said yes so he said let me know if they swell again but it hasnt. I note this is , his actual cheeks Im utterly baffled by it all he has a good shine on his coat, very upbeat and clear eyes etc and this horse is very healthy but im baffled? how can i sort of test to see for this ? his bedding was quite deep shavings and i removed alot and to be fair the stable in his livery yard isnt so great It is also a dark blood from one nostril? any help appreciated, thank you
 
more nosebleeds

More nosebleeds this time a fresher coloured blood.He has now been turned out for two weeks and for a few days i thought it had gone but not the case it has came back ! he has been only on hard feed and grass no haylage and now i am believing it is pollen related, Although the odd thing is he doesnt cough alot? or anything which a friend whos horse has a pollen does? so im going to bring him back in tomorrow and see what happens, turning him just out through the days . He has been like a guinea pig for the last month , taking him of this and that , and turning out and keeping in all trying to get to the route of this. He has i noticed tonight a few lumps around his neck and face which concerns me with the allergy thing? but the vet is baffled also and Im at a loss now what to do !
 
hi there. i was just reading this discussion and was struck by how similar the situation sounds to what one of our horses is going through. i know this discussion is a bit old by now but i was wondering what happened in the end - what was the cause of the bleeding and how did it stop ? if anyone has any more info i would be really grateful, as i am at a total loss as to what to do about our mare. thanks !
 
re: nosebleed

Hi there,

My horse turned out to have inflamation of the nasal passage after various scoping exercises. We tried to nail it down to a particular thing that was causing it. Simply it had been poor haylage that aggreviated it. The horse was fed Horsehage since that date to now and it hasnt returned.
My one point is to take your horse to a proper Horse Vet. I spent the money and he ruled out alot of more serious issues this discussion had mentioned.
One of the contributors to this discussion mentioned - smearing vaseline over the horses nostrils on a daily basis and as soon as i started doing this the bleeding stopped. The horse was treated with powerful antibiotics for the infection however the vaseline I swear by now. consequently my horse was kept in a large barn with twenty other horses and i kept my vaseline routine every evening on his nose. All the horses nearly due to high dust level have mild nasal discharge and coughing at periods, however my horse is the only one who hasnt had this - possible as I am more particular now about respitory issues and my routine. But I really think the vaseline helped with this particular infection.

What has your vet said?
 
Thanks for getting back to me !
our mare definately has a fungal infection that came from bad hay. it affected her lungs really badly at first but the first dose of antibiotics seemed to solve the problem there, only the bleeding didnt stop. She is quite old - 27 - and has already lost a load of weight. The vet seems to be ruling out any infection of the guttural pouch, which is a relief, but I wonder sometimes how he can be so sure since he didnt do a scope because of her age and present condition. she was put on a drip twice to give her some formalin to stop the bleeding, which worked for a few days but then she bled again. she got more antibiotics which helped but she is still bleeding a little bit (though much less than before) and seems to have lost her appetite. She is now getting a homeopatic treatment against the fungus and is allowed to roam free around our place in the hope that she will at least eat some grass and the carrots we give her (the only feed she still kinda likes). She is quite weak but doesnt seem to be in any real pain. So at the moment we are hoping that the treatment will work and that she will pull through. Not sure if there is anything else we can try at this point. Any suggestions are welcome though !
 
Bleeding

Hi there , my horse got quite weak due to the constant bloody discharge and I put him on an all purpose supplement to (recharge his batteries) your horse you would need to be very careful with. It concerns me a little your vet hasnt scoped the mare? as that was the first thing my vet done to check if the guttural pouches where effected before treatment. He told me a horse really will bleed to death with the condition in as soon a period as 14 days and that terrified me. Has she a nose net on presently too ? unfortunately once the airways or nasal passage has infection it is quite hard to heal as obviously the horse is breathing everything in and out aggreviating it with every particle. Thats why the vaseline is quite good as a barrier cream.
 
Hi, hope all is going well with your horse. I am thinking of giving a horse a home that has had same symptoms as your horse and have been told that it is due to a grass allergy. Do you think this problem is to big to take on? Also do you smear the vaseline as far up inside the nostrils as you can or just around the outside. Any advise would be appreciated. Regards Chakeeta
 
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