A 'why is she doing this?' question =)

beating_hooves

beating_hooves

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Well that grumpy mare of my mums has started like pawing her haynet.
For the past two mornings now, I have come to let her out and her foot is all caught in the haynet. The first time the haynet had come down and was just trailing behind her and the second time it was still tied up and her foot was caught in it. Both times the net had to be cut to free her (no injuries though thank goodness!)

She has had a haynet for years and has never done this before. She has had no change in diet or anything either and the haynet was properly tied up high and everything.

We no longer put her hay in a net to avoid her getting injured but I was just wondering if anyone knew why she did this?
 
Perhaps she finds it difficult to eat - the holes are too small, she is not physically capable of eating that way (teeth/jaw problem perhaps?)

Interesting!
 
the haynet must be tied higher up!
my friends horse had to be put down yesterday because she got her foot caught in the net and panicked breaking her leg
:(

you could use a haybar, a trough or just leave it on the floor

xxxx
 
puzzles said:
Perhaps she finds it difficult to eat - the holes are too small, she is not physically capable of eating that way (teeth/jaw problem perhaps?)

Interesting!
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Well she's had the same net for years so I doubt the holes were too small. Teeth are checked regularly and no symptoms of jaw problems.
 
lauraandharvey said:
the haynet must be tied higher up!
my friends horse had to be put down yesterday because she got her foot caught in the net and panicked breaking her leg
:(

you could use a haybar, a trough or just leave it on the floor

xxxx
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Honestly its not possible to tie it up any higher, I have no idea how she got her foot caught. Fortunately she is 16 and therefore quite sensible (on the ground :rolleyes:) and didn't panic but we are leaving hay on the floor now.
 
beating_hooves said:
Honestly its not possible to tie it up any higher, I have no idea how she got her foot caught. Fortunately she is 16 and therefore quite sensible (on the ground :rolleyes:) and didn't panic but we are leaving hay on the floor now.
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awh bless has she chewed through it
mine used to i bought a shires small holed hayledge net
cost me a 5iver its the best one ive had
hes not managed to chew though it and it has strong rope through it
xx
 
im very suprised you say she has no teeth/jaw problems..
After working with an equine dentsit and training myself, and seeing first hand.. horses that have eaten from haynets most of thier lives do have problems.
The lower jaw when the horses head is not down towards the floor, is not alinged with the top jaw, it is slid backwards and seeing as the last lower molar has nothing to wear on, large hooks can become a problem therefore when the horse does bring its head down causes the jaw to become locked by the hooks developed at the back.

Im not having a dig.. there are lots of situations where haynets carnt be avoided such as travelling etc. Its just lots of people dont know the real effects of haynets, and then there is the more common feet getting trapped, which can be horrific as my friend found out with her 4yr old mare not so long ago.

I made my own haybar (well OH did lol) just a board of thick wood across one of the corners in my stable, drilled into the wall, beats paying £50 for a plastic haybar!
 
sorry i don't know why but my old pony did it once and got his foot caught in it worried and started to have a little paddy and was on box rest for 3 days or so :rolleyes: we put the haynet higher and this stopped it :S

xxxx
 
Try using a haylage net, or even better.. get rid of the nets altogether and feed her from the floor. If she's started doing it she will probably keep on doing it.. and IMO it isn't worth the risk.
 
wildponies said:
Try using a haylage net, or even better.. get rid of the nets altogether and feed her from the floor. If she's started doing it she will probably keep on doing it.. and IMO it isn't worth the risk.
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It was a haylage net as she is fed on haylage, sorry should have made that clear.
And yeah we are putting her hay on the floor for now, don't want to risk it!
 
oh thankgod lol, alot of people can get a bit funny when you say that somthing they have been doing with their horse can be bad for them.. If shes had her teeth done regularly then she shouldnt have any major hooks :D
 
Daffy has, as far as I'm aware, always had nets, and I often get told (I ask vet to check every time they're out) no, they don't need doing. Saying that, I do hang my nets as low as is physically possible. I use the extremely small holed jobbies. I did try hay on floor (or hay in bucket on floor) but he just wasted it.

We have a hay bar in the stable too, but can't use that as next door wants to share and that upsets Daffy. :rolleyes: Unfortunately I can't swop that and the water trough over, and I don't think it would fit in the back corner (but now that it's occured to me I'm going to check). Plus, I'm not sure how good it would be at restricting haylage? Daffy gets exactly what he needs - no more, no less.
 
danni&george said:
im very suprised you say she has no teeth/jaw problems..
After working with an equine dentsit and training myself, and seeing first hand.. horses that have eaten from haynets most of thier lives do have problems.
The lower jaw when the horses head is not down towards the floor, is not alinged with the top jaw, it is slid backwards and seeing as the last lower molar has nothing to wear on, large hooks can become a problem therefore when the horse does bring its head down causes the jaw to become locked by the hooks developed at the back.

Im not having a dig.. there are lots of situations where haynets carnt be avoided such as travelling etc. Its just lots of people dont know the real effects of haynets, and then there is the more common feet getting trapped, which can be horrific as my friend found out with her 4yr old mare not so long ago.

I made my own haybar (well OH did lol) just a board of thick wood across one of the corners in my stable, drilled into the wall, beats paying £50 for a plastic haybar!
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Right im giving up haynets now, lol!

Thanks:)
 
If you buy a haylage (sp?) net, they have far smaller holes than a normal haynet. Her feet would no way fit through those holes. I found that the material hay nets are made out of makes them difficult to stop slipping when tying them up, so I cut it and re-threaded it with bale tie...much easier to get a non-movable tie up, combined with the smaller holes....impossible for her to get her feet tangled in it...!

graciemoo x
 
tbh (and again not having a dig!) i dont trust vets with teeth, my friends 12 yr old has never had his teeth done, as the vets she had everytime they checked when he had his jabs, said he did not need doing. Most vets are too bone idol and dont really have alot of experience doing it, they have about a total of 2 lectures on teeth at vet school so ive been told by a vet student.

Anyway the outcome of this when my dentist and me visited this yard, the girl that had the horse on loan at the time asked him to have a quick check of his mouth as he had been tossing his head about and evading the bit totally. And by god it was bad, he had to be taken into the vets to be sedated and have power tool jobby done. They where hurrendus.

Yes so in the world of dentistry dont trust everything the vet says, the only have a limited amount of equipment and no specific training in the job, the womans vets were not just a one off, weve heard of alot of vets being the same.
xxx
 
danni&george said:
tbh (and again not having a dig!) i dont trust vets with teeth, my friends 12 yr old has never had his teeth done, as the vets she had everytime they checked when he had his jabs, said he did not need doing. Most vets are too bone idol and dont really have alot of experience doing it, they have about a total of 2 lectures on teeth at vet school so ive been told by a vet student.

Anyway the outcome of this when my dentist and me visited this yard, the girl that had the horse on loan at the time asked him to have a quick check of his mouth as he had been tossing his head about and evading the bit totally. And by god it was bad, he had to be taken into the vets to be sedated and have power tool jobby done. They where hurrendus.

Yes so in the world of dentistry dont trust everything the vet says, the only have a limited amount of equipment and no specific training in the job, the womans vets were not just a one off, weve heard of alot of vets being the same.
xxx
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Thanks but we have a very honest and reliable vet who we have had for years and really trust him :)
 
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