Chronic Progressive Lymphoedema

Jane&Ziggy

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I know the risk of Googling diseases but having found references to this on Facebook I looked on line and found many helpful sites such as this one https://chronicprogressivelymphoedema.com.

I think it's possible that Sid may have a very mild or incipient case of this. He has a few folds around his fetlocks, and the sores and scaliness match. It is apparently incurable but management means doing what I am doing, essentially -
  • living out 24/7 on a track - the gold standard for treating this condition, apparently
  • managing hyperkeratosis with moisturising - I do anyway
  • managing weight - *h'rm h'rm I'm not doing so well on this but will continue to try - no sugary feeds, all grass based organic food
  • exercise - he is worked at least twice a week but needs more. I should get a sharer
  • massage - massaging sores and folds on his pasterns will be helpful "if the horse allows" - Sid loves it, so I will do more of that
  • trimming ergots - his ergots are split and cracked. Apparently this can harbour infection. I'll ask my trimmer to fix them in future.
I can't see anything else I should be doing, but does anyone else suspect or know of this condition in their horse? What else do you do?
 

Jessey

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CPL is what we used to call stocking-up, it sounds very possible from what you have said.
Stocking-up wasn't really something we ever worried about unless they started getting infections, normally exercise would reduce it, unless it was particularly serious and wouldn't go down as then you seemed to get the thickened skin which is when a bit of a repetitive cycle would start and you'd get the vet in, but you've already done that.
There is some simple massage techniques you can do to aid lymphatic drainage, I had to learn some when Jess kept getting that odd filled leg a couple of years ago.
 

chunky monkey

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Interesting. Billy has lumps underneath all his feather in those places. Chunky has always had a little bit too. Hes not scurfy but definitely feels lumpy. Hes not stabled so that goes out the window and he moves far more than chunky but it would be interesting to have a good feel and see if there is any size difference between his good and lame leg.
 

domane

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There is a Facebook group for this and it has lots of info and advice. Might be worth joining?

 

Skib

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Can you ride him 3 times a week? I ask because at my yard, I was told by an owner that livery owners were required to ride 3 times a week. I dont have the stamina. So abandonned the idea of buying a horse.
As an RS rider, it strikes me that all my favourite RS horses have worked hard. Hacking 3 hours a day. And often ridden fast by young before-work riders who take the freshness off before I am allowed on. Ella tells me every week (mid morning) that she is far too tired to trot.
 

Jane&Ziggy

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Ella tells me every week (mid morning) that she is far too tired to trot
I wish Sid were as well exercised as Ella, but I suspect she may be having you on a bit!

If I had more time I would ride him more but at the moment we are both working hard in the business to try and keep it going - post pandemic times are very tough. Sid has to take second place, poor boy. Not that he minds standing around!

simple massage techniques you can do to aid lymphatic drainage,
Do you have any references @Jessey ? I'd give that a go.

umps underneath all his feather in those places

That is a sign, I believe.
 

Skib

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Sorry your business has been so badly hit.

Can you find a good sharer then? May be via a Facebook Surrey group? Pity we are too far away.
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