What are the points that youa re touching on in your five positions?? I know for 2 point it's your legs, and 3 point is your legs and your seat. What about the others?
Five Positions
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I've never heard the term "5 positions," but if you mean "5 points of contact," I would think seat, 2 legs, and 2 hands.
Doh! have no idea. Even 3 point makes no sense to me - is it sitting or in a light\forward seat so that you bum just scrapes the saddle?
3-Point is 'normal' seat when you're doing flatwork (or some instructors use it coming into a jump) where you're sat up with your bum in the saddle. Light seat is when you bring your weight forwards SLIGHTLY to take your weight off the back which then progresses further into 2-Point.
well, the 5 positions, like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and then there are the 5 points of contact, then the 3 point, and 2 point. What's the difference between the 2 position, 3 position, and then the 2 point and 3 point?
edit: are there points of contact for each of the riding positions? (I believe this is my main question...sorry, I phrased it weird)
edit: are there points of contact for each of the riding positions? (I believe this is my main question...sorry, I phrased it weird)
I'm not sure what you mean by "5 positions." Could you elaborate on these?
The idea of 5 seats reminds me of something I read in a book recently, where the author broke down positions into something like 5 different "seats". I tried to consult the book to see if it would shed light on your question, but I seem to have given it away.
The idea of 5 seats reminds me of something I read in a book recently, where the author broke down positions into something like 5 different "seats". I tried to consult the book to see if it would shed light on your question, but I seem to have given it away.
1st position- sitting in the saddle.
second position- same as 2 point, used for jumping smaller fences, few inches out of the saddle, leaning forward a bit.
third position- seat barely out of the saddle, towards the back of the saddle. I believe this is similar to the half seat (not too sure on this one).
four position- almost jockey style
. Out of the saddle, seat to the very back of the saddle, upperbody very forward.
five position- standing straight up in the saddle, knees slightly bent, upperbody tall and straight.
This is how i've always known them as, since i started riding I was taught them.
edit: bleh, sorry everyone, just realized how stupid a question i've asked. Seems that i haven't phrased it right and no one knows what it is..though i'm SURE that someone must have an idea of what i'm talking about.
second position- same as 2 point, used for jumping smaller fences, few inches out of the saddle, leaning forward a bit.
third position- seat barely out of the saddle, towards the back of the saddle. I believe this is similar to the half seat (not too sure on this one).
four position- almost jockey style
. Out of the saddle, seat to the very back of the saddle, upperbody very forward.five position- standing straight up in the saddle, knees slightly bent, upperbody tall and straight.
This is how i've always known them as, since i started riding I was taught them.
edit: bleh, sorry everyone, just realized how stupid a question i've asked. Seems that i haven't phrased it right and no one knows what it is..though i'm SURE that someone must have an idea of what i'm talking about.
IrisSilverMoon
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position four seems to be a very bad place to put yourself.
and for me position two and five are the exact same thing, as far as my jumping is concerned. 2-point=standing, not jump position. FOr me jump position (position three as you describe it) is seat a little out of the saddle your rear towards the back legs come forward a tad. Two point or standing is a more upright position where your body is centered over the saddle and your rear is much more out of the saddle than my typical jump position.
and i think in explaining these to everyone you've answered your own question. What points in each of those positions would be touching the horse?
and for me position two and five are the exact same thing, as far as my jumping is concerned. 2-point=standing, not jump position. FOr me jump position (position three as you describe it) is seat a little out of the saddle your rear towards the back legs come forward a tad. Two point or standing is a more upright position where your body is centered over the saddle and your rear is much more out of the saddle than my typical jump position.
and i think in explaining these to everyone you've answered your own question. What points in each of those positions would be touching the horse?
It wasn't a stupid question, so don't feel silly. It just sounds as though your instructors have had a specific way of describing things (position numbers 1-5) to you that isn't universally taught. The essentials are probably very much the same, whatever the terminology.
As far as I can tell, what you described as 1st position is full-seat (weight in the seat and upper body close to vertical); your 2nd position is the two-point (for jumping, galloping, showing hunters over courses, and sometimes when riding on rough terrain, though I would aim for a little out of the saddle, not a few inches out); your 3rd position is half-seat (just grazing the saddle, but light and forward); your 4th position is a position one may be in over higher fences; and your 5th position is where you would be in the standing phase of posting the trot, or when stretching or checking your balance.
As far as I can tell, what you described as 1st position is full-seat (weight in the seat and upper body close to vertical); your 2nd position is the two-point (for jumping, galloping, showing hunters over courses, and sometimes when riding on rough terrain, though I would aim for a little out of the saddle, not a few inches out); your 3rd position is half-seat (just grazing the saddle, but light and forward); your 4th position is a position one may be in over higher fences; and your 5th position is where you would be in the standing phase of posting the trot, or when stretching or checking your balance.
As one of my demonstrators at Uni used to say:
There are not stupid questions, only stupid people!
There are not stupid questions, only stupid people!
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