as the title says..... what are your views on friesian warmbloods?? and i mean proper warmbloods, not TB crosses, nothing against TB crosses at all, just meaning hanoverian/oldenburg/kwpn crosses etc.
Friesian Warmbloods? What Do You Think
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The only friesian crosses Ive come across in UK have been crossed with TBs...they seemed nice but thats not what you're after. I think I would prefer a Friesian crossed with......another Friesian but thats just me 
I think I would prefer a Friesian crossed with......another Friesian but thats just me
Absolutely!
I think Blackhorses on here has Friesians and Friesian Warmbloods - you could PM?
I like the pure bred Friesian first and foremost, however some crosses are ok.
Ive seen Friesian x welsh cob, and Friesian x andalusian (are they called warlander's??) but I don't recall seeing a x with warmblood in the flesh yet.
Any reason why you wouldn't want pure Friesian?
I like the pure bred Friesian first and foremost, however some crosses are ok.
Ive seen Friesian x welsh cob, and Friesian x andalusian (are they called warlander's??) but I don't recall seeing a x with warmblood in the flesh yet.
Any reason why you wouldn't want pure Friesian?
I personally cannot see the value of crossing the Friesian with anything else, as a Baroque breed, I fail to see how crossing with KWPN/Hanovarian/DWB etc has any benefit on sports horse breeding.
Unless of course it is to correct some temperament faults which have been occuring in some of the warmblood breeds.
Blackhorse on here does breed pure and part-bred Friesian stock, she also has a very nice and correct truly Baroque Friesian stallion, so very different from the longer/leaner/taller type that seems to be bred now.
Friesian x PRE are indeed Warlanders, popular in the US. Once again I cannot see the point of crossing those two breeds. Each is beautiful and versatile in its own right.
Unless of course it is to correct some temperament faults which have been occuring in some of the warmblood breeds.
Blackhorse on here does breed pure and part-bred Friesian stock, she also has a very nice and correct truly Baroque Friesian stallion, so very different from the longer/leaner/taller type that seems to be bred now.
Friesian x PRE are indeed Warlanders, popular in the US. Once again I cannot see the point of crossing those two breeds. Each is beautiful and versatile in its own right.
I like the crosses, but it depends on the mare and stallion, they have to compliment each other and be really good examples of thier type, the sport type friesian doesn't really make a good cross to other horses as they tend to pass on thier tubey lean conformation which is not considered good in any other breed so the baroque types tend to be better, depends as well on what results people want.
The reason people cross is to pass on the friesian temperament to other breeds, add bone and substance to a lighter horse like a TB or warmblood, also the friesian gene pool is pretty tiny so outcrossing can improve the friesian and limit the number of genetic defects that can potentially occur.
Most warmbloods have friesian in thier history as well as shire/fell/dales so crossbreeding is nothing new.
The TB x's are competeing at high levels of eventing and dressage as well as driving - it adds alot to the TB and the result is a chunky warmblood type horse with really nice action and temperament and good feet!
They have a few breeds societies forming like the arabo friesians - top level carriage drivers were having trouble with stamina in pure friesians so they added a bit of carefully selected arab bloodlines and then crossed those back to pure friesians to get the friesian look but with that extra bit of stamina.
And the andalucian x are just to get big chunky baroque sorts of horses that are capable of high level dressage but that are not quite so sharp as a pure andi and able to carry more weight - friesians have spanish blood in them anyway that's where they get thier hairy gene and high stepping action from!!
I have seen some quite nice warmblood cross friesians about and they were doing high levels of dressage so it is a good cross if the parents are good saw one for sale a few months ago and it was around £9000 and was doing very well at its dressage.
Have seen some pretty awfull friesian crosses where people have thought the stallion looked amazing and just put it to thier mare with little thought to the outcome, but I guess you get that with any breed!
There are some links on the links page of my website to various sites devoted to the cross bred friesians.
The reason people cross is to pass on the friesian temperament to other breeds, add bone and substance to a lighter horse like a TB or warmblood, also the friesian gene pool is pretty tiny so outcrossing can improve the friesian and limit the number of genetic defects that can potentially occur.
Most warmbloods have friesian in thier history as well as shire/fell/dales so crossbreeding is nothing new.
The TB x's are competeing at high levels of eventing and dressage as well as driving - it adds alot to the TB and the result is a chunky warmblood type horse with really nice action and temperament and good feet!
They have a few breeds societies forming like the arabo friesians - top level carriage drivers were having trouble with stamina in pure friesians so they added a bit of carefully selected arab bloodlines and then crossed those back to pure friesians to get the friesian look but with that extra bit of stamina.
And the andalucian x are just to get big chunky baroque sorts of horses that are capable of high level dressage but that are not quite so sharp as a pure andi and able to carry more weight - friesians have spanish blood in them anyway that's where they get thier hairy gene and high stepping action from!!
I have seen some quite nice warmblood cross friesians about and they were doing high levels of dressage so it is a good cross if the parents are good saw one for sale a few months ago and it was around £9000 and was doing very well at its dressage.
Have seen some pretty awfull friesian crosses where people have thought the stallion looked amazing and just put it to thier mare with little thought to the outcome, but I guess you get that with any breed!
There are some links on the links page of my website to various sites devoted to the cross bred friesians.
hi guys, thanks for your views. i think this may change any of your minds. she is a friesian x oldenburg import,
WHAT DO YOU THINK TO THIS???
mum is sambers daughter,
andd dad is grand prix baroque type friesian stally.
WHAT DO YOU THINK TO THIS???
mum is sambers daughter,
andd dad is grand prix baroque type friesian stally.
The only friesian crosses Ive come across in UK have been crossed with TBs...they seemed nice but thats not what you're after. I think I would prefer a Friesian crossed with......another Friesian but thats just me
Same here. Have seen a x Welsh D which was nice.
she is as far as i know, the first of her breed in the UK, if anyone else knows or can find out anything else. this would be great as i may then know what she could end up like. glad you all like her. any friesian or friesian x is B E A U T I F U L!!!!!!!!!.
She's pretty... Not sure about her backend action though???? From both of those pics she looks to cross her backlegs over... What do you plan to do with her?
She's a cute little horse though Not sure about whether she'd be the first, hard to tell as obviously the crosses cant be registered so theres no records to check against
I personally like the purebreds! lol Whether its horses, dogs, cats, whatever, I would go for the purebred everytime. That way at least you should have some idea what you are getting. But that said, i can understand why some outcrossing is done to add to the genepool. With Una i plan to breed from her using AI to a good approved stallion to add some new blood to this country! If you're going to breed, you should try to add something to the breed IMO
She's a cute little horse though
Not sure about whether she'd be the first, hard to tell as obviously the crosses cant be registered so theres no records to check against I personally like the purebreds! lol Whether its horses, dogs, cats, whatever, I would go for the purebred everytime. That way at least you should have some idea what you are getting. But that said, i can understand why some outcrossing is done to add to the genepool. With Una i plan to breed from her using AI to a good approved stallion to add some new blood to this country! If you're going to breed, you should try to add something to the breed IMO
I agree with Jessica23. In the case of Friesians, i like to see purebred. Friesians are beautiful in their own right.
Just out of interest jessica (not meaning to hijack thread) have you got stallion in mind already? We are putting our mare (friesian) in foal this year via AI from an approved stallion - have a couple in mind.
Just out of interest jessica (not meaning to hijack thread) have you got stallion in mind already? We are putting our mare (friesian) in foal this year via AI from an approved stallion - have a couple in mind.
jessica, its strange because she is very straight but in the pictures doesnt look it at all. she has very good dressage and jumping lines but would prefer to do dressagge with her. will have to see.
crosses and purebreds are or should i say can be registered with the FSHR, sport horse registry. i will try contacting them to see. like you said, in your opinion, breeding is to add something to the breed, well, this combination has added a lot of things to the friesian, and the only other x oldenburgs i have seen are on the continent and are the most spectacular things to watch and be around. they have the temperament of the friesian and trainability, with the build power and agility of the warmblood. will keep you updated guys. glad you all like her.
crosses and purebreds are or should i say can be registered with the FSHR, sport horse registry. i will try contacting them to see. like you said, in your opinion, breeding is to add something to the breed, well, this combination has added a lot of things to the friesian, and the only other x oldenburgs i have seen are on the continent and are the most spectacular things to watch and be around. they have the temperament of the friesian and trainability, with the build power and agility of the warmblood. will keep you updated guys. glad you all like her.
But she isn't a Friesian X Oldenburg.
Her dam is By a TB X Dutch KWPN out of a mare that is TB x Hanovarian and she just happens to be Oldenburg by location.
The Continental regional names are in the main not breeds but registries and to someone like me that is used to purebreds or straightforward breed crosses the idea that crossing two breeds makes another breed is abhorrent.
Her dam is By a TB X Dutch KWPN out of a mare that is TB x Hanovarian and she just happens to be Oldenburg by location.
The Continental regional names are in the main not breeds but registries and to someone like me that is used to purebreds or straightforward breed crosses the idea that crossing two breeds makes another breed is abhorrent.
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The term warmblood only applies to a type not a specific breed, technically a cold blood x hot blood, all warmbloods are a mixture of draught types and TB or arab etc. The friesian warmblood is not a seperate breed just a name for a type. I think crossing different breeds is great as long as they are sensible and compliment each other and you get a usefull horse that does what you intended it to do. All breeds are mixtures at the end of the day just some have had more generations that are registered than others! If people didn't crossbreed we wouldn't have half the differnet types of horses we do today!
No, havent really started looking yet as Una is only 18 months
I am hopefully going to drag my dutch friend to the stallion grading so he can translate for me lol And then i'll have a look at the horses in the flesh 
The filly looks sweet Oldenburgs were used to bring back the dying out friesian breed as Oldenburgs came about from the friesian.
I breed FWB, at the moment mine are TB x and I have one on the ground and she is lovely. Her movement is as if she is floating on air.
I am hoping to soon start breeding purebreds too but in Australia friesians are exclusive horses at the moment, not everyone can afford one. The FWB are helping breeders stay afloat to breed up pures.
Oldenburgs were used to bring back the dying out friesian breed as Oldenburgs came about from the friesian.I breed FWB, at the moment mine are TB x and I have one on the ground and she is lovely. Her movement is as if she is floating on air.
I am hoping to soon start breeding purebreds too but in Australia friesians are exclusive horses at the moment, not everyone can afford one. The FWB are helping breeders stay afloat to breed up pures.
blackhorses - you're horses are stunning & you've bred some fabulous foals!
I'm a sucker for a nice tb - the friesian x tb's are lovelY!
I'm a sucker for a nice tb - the friesian x tb's are lovelY!
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