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my two year old filly started dunging loads of worms a few weeks ago. so i brought her a cheap wormer that killed red worms and she dunged loads of red worms and some round worms. so I brought her an equest knowing its good for red worms, and planned to do her week later, but she started passing more red worms at day five so i wormed her as soon as they appeared again with equest. So that was ten days ago and today noticed red worms in her droppings again. Using equest and knowing that it absorbs into the muscle i am wondering what to do now. do i worm her again with a different wormer, give her a smaller dose of equest or leave it a little longer before treating her with anything. Shes had a good worming programme all last year, she did have red worms july time but she never showed any signs after i did her with a wormer and one week later again. This is the first shes showed any signs so i am guessing they were in her gut dorment.
any help or experience would be greatly apreciated.
 
how about getting a worm count done and the lab will advise a plan to tackle to outcome, someone on here (sorry forgot your name) runs westgate labs she will be able to give you a load of info

hope you get it sorted

good luck
 
thanks i contacted the vets today but oone could answer as my usual vet is off til monday but wanted to know other peoples opinions too.
 
Be careful pumping too much wormer in a 2 year old. Their tummys are quite sensitive. I think the equest wormer is not suitable for youngsters. I would speak to Westagate, and your vet and get a plan in place. You should also feed a probotic to help restore balance in the stomach.
 
These sound like redworms that were previously encysted in the gut wall. The worms that are coming out - are they dead or alive. Are you sure you gave the right dose of Equest?
When this episode is over I would suggest you worm with Equitape as she may have tapeworms aswell.
As someone else said, give her Pink Powder for example to ease the strain on her poor tum !
 
My boy is 2 next month and he has had serious problems with a high redworm burden. I wormed him in October with Equimax and then Strongid P at Xmas. He got an abscess in his foot at the beginning of Feb so had to be stabled. He then started to lose weight,and had runny poos. In Feb, the same day as I wormed him with Pramox he was very ill. He had a high temperature and was lying down all the time. Two days later he was admitted to the Royal Vet College. It was touch and go and I really don't think that they thought he would pull through. He had surgery to see if they could find out why he was so ill. They thought it was to do with the drugs he had had for his foot abcess. They took a biopsy of his colon and they found out he had a very high worm burden. I was very shocked as I knew he had been wormed regularly. He was in isolation for 2 and a half weeks.He is home now but very skinny and I am having difficulty getting him to eat, he keeps on getting colic symptoms. I don't know if he's going to be ok or not in the long term but I will do the best I can for him. The vets said Panacur Equine Guard (5 day course) is the best for youngsters with redworm as it's milder for them. I am going to worm my boy with the Panacur in 2 weeks time. I highly recommend the Westgate worm count, I had to check my other horses but thankfully they were all ok. Please speak to your vet on Monday cos I would hate for you to have to go through what I have had to over the past through weeks.

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Try contacting the vets again and get their advice on this. Having known a horse who died from heavy worm infestation, I wouldn't leave it too long and I certainly wouldn't keep using different wormer's on her to try and eliminate them in case they got resistent.
 
thanks shes not showing any signs of being ill just a little light but not overly. i was thinking of panacure five day but wanted to make sure i wasn;t gonna kill her so soon after equest. she got more than her weight in equest will see what the vet recommends tommorrow. i have her up for sale but won't be passing her onto someelse till i know shes clear thanks everyone.
 
I'd be careful about goiving the right amount of wormer. How come did she get more than her weight in Equest having already been wormed 5 days earlier.

I'd be really concerned about the amount you are worming, especially given that you are now considering worming again and this was only a few weeks ago :confused:
 
Oh dear lots of mixed up worming ideas are appearing in this thread I'm afraid.

It must be said that if worms appear in the dung after worming it is likely that the horse has a high parasite problem. 'Normal' horses would not show signs of worms.
One wormer, whatever it is, will not clear up a major problem. It has to be treated over time, which may be a couple of years, and with good products, preferably monitoring the burden with worm counts at appropriate times.

Panacur Guard is not always a 'kinder' option as some horses get an irritated gut when wormed this way. It does treat encysted redworm though so is sometimes the right choice.
Equest is the only other wormer to treat encysted stages. If you have given Equest then you should not worm again soon afterwards. Let the wormer do the job and get a worm count done after a couple of months.

A 'regularly wormed' horse can still have problems if those wormers are not the right choices. Little Tinka's horse in the thread above is a case in point.

If you want to read about my rescued pony and his worming (well you must be bored!), look at the news page on my website. Rory is doing well now. His latest count showed just into medium so he has had another Equest, but he is full of beans and happy and settled.

If you are not sure about worming, and lots of folk aren't, then get help, from a knowledgeable vet, a good SQP in a shop, or from ourselves, also SQP's.
Horses still die from worm problems so you can't afford to mess about with them.

Here is little Rory (nearly two now) getting his feet trimmed:
Rorystrim.jpg
 
yeah talked to the vet this morning and he recommends keeping an eye on her droppings over the next week and if shes still got worms can do her with panacure five day and then her next worming do her with equest again.
 
mistonia said:
my two year old filly started dunging loads of worms a few weeks ago. so i brought her a cheap wormer that killed red worms and she dunged loads of red worms and some round worms. so I brought her an equest knowing its good for red worms, and planned to do her week later, but she started passing more red worms at day five so i wormed her as soon as they appeared again with equest. So that was ten days ago and today noticed red worms in her droppings again. Using equest and knowing that it absorbs into the muscle i am wondering what to do now. do i worm her again with a different wormer, give her a smaller dose of equest or leave it a little longer before treating her with anything. Shes had a good worming programme all last year, she did have red worms july time but she never showed any signs after i did her with a wormer and one week later again. This is the first shes showed any signs so i am guessing they were in her gut dorment.
any help or experience would be greatly apreciated.
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I think I would be inclined to get the vet in at this stage. There is
no resitance to Equest from what I can find out but messing about with the dose without Veterinary advice could be asking for trouble. Don't want to frighten you but are you sure you are seeing redworms and not streaks of blood in the faeces?
 
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