Left brain introvert right brain extrovert....what exactly IS IT?
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I've got to say, that was my first reaction. I don't think wonkeywoody has ever met a good RI outside of NH.
I believe my RI is fantastic, but I don't think she is the only one out there who tailors her teaching to different horses.
This is tragic that there are folk out there calling themselves instructors and they havn't the imagination, ability to see that all horses are different and cannot be treated the same way.
In my view it is impossible to train all horses the same.
Even my son who is not a horseman, but helps me with the driving horses can see that you don't treat them all the same, neither does he otherwise we would come to grief very quickly. I don't need to explain to him in words of one syllable that Jackson is a nervous sensetive type, and Andy and Charlie will take the pee if given the opportunity.
In my view it is impossible to train all horses the same.
Even my son who is not a horseman, but helps me with the driving horses can see that you don't treat them all the same, neither does he otherwise we would come to grief very quickly. I don't need to explain to him in words of one syllable that Jackson is a nervous sensetive type, and Andy and Charlie will take the pee if given the opportunity.
I agree with you entirely on that one. But I'll keep looking....
I agree with you on that one too.
I also have a gripe that RI's I have met also "blame" the horse for not (eg) bending one way properly etc ie they tell you "more leg" or "more hand" etc, when actually if they sorted out rider crookedness alot of the "problems" the horse has, would disappear......
Sorry OP, this topic has rather gone OT!
Not OT in a terrible way.
I was forever telling people off for blaming a horse for being lazy. The horse was going slowly because the rider was either hindering him so badly he was unable to go forward, or he was worried if he went any faster he'd drop his rider. Some horses actually try to keep the rider up top and I get really cross when he gets the blame for being lazy.
I was forever telling people off for blaming a horse for being lazy. The horse was going slowly because the rider was either hindering him so badly he was unable to go forward, or he was worried if he went any faster he'd drop his rider. Some horses actually try to keep the rider up top and I get really cross when he gets the blame for being lazy.
Mine was accused of being lazy (by me too!) by the FBHS I mentioned earlier. She told me to keep him going at all costs......
Now, having read/watched/listened to, yes the 'dreaded' PP Horsenality, I find that my horse looks and acts dominant, but actually he is unconfident with the added twist of "whats in it for me" (this is the short version!). So by backing off, being playful (instead of workmanlike/direct line) and encouragement he "offers" more so I do less. I'm not saying being soft, just different appraoch to things.
Slate me if you want but it works and is a nicer way to do things.
Now, having read/watched/listened to, yes the 'dreaded' PP Horsenality, I find that my horse looks and acts dominant, but actually he is unconfident with the added twist of "whats in it for me" (this is the short version!). So by backing off, being playful (instead of workmanlike/direct line) and encouragement he "offers" more so I do less. I'm not saying being soft, just different appraoch to things.
Slate me if you want but it works and is a nicer way to do things.
The 'horsenalties' are another tool to help you work with your horse. No one is claiming it to be scientific fact although similar work is being used in other fields.
Its quite simple - you can download a chart and for various traits or tendancies you mark a box as to whether it is a strong, medium or mild tendancy. If you horse does not display this trait you leave it blank. Chances are a pattern will emerge giving you some insight into techniques that may work better with your horse. Right brain tends to be 'instinctual/flight/fright' type behaviours and thus the aim is to help your horse become more 'left brain'. The different 'types' tend to respond better to different things such as 'play' or need to work more slowly etc etc.
They also talk about dealing with the horse that turns up - ie your horse may behave one way most of the time, and you have strategies for motivating them - however another day they may be out of sorts and exhibiting different behaviours - it then guides you towards how to motivate them when they are doing that.
Its a way of helping people to understand horse 'moods' and what would be appropriate to use.
It is also a useful tool for recording what your horse is like currently and then over time you can record changes in their behaviour.
You can download the chart here http://files.parelli.com/HorsenalityChart.pdf
Its quite simple - you can download a chart and for various traits or tendancies you mark a box as to whether it is a strong, medium or mild tendancy. If you horse does not display this trait you leave it blank. Chances are a pattern will emerge giving you some insight into techniques that may work better with your horse. Right brain tends to be 'instinctual/flight/fright' type behaviours and thus the aim is to help your horse become more 'left brain'. The different 'types' tend to respond better to different things such as 'play' or need to work more slowly etc etc.
They also talk about dealing with the horse that turns up - ie your horse may behave one way most of the time, and you have strategies for motivating them - however another day they may be out of sorts and exhibiting different behaviours - it then guides you towards how to motivate them when they are doing that.
Its a way of helping people to understand horse 'moods' and what would be appropriate to use.
It is also a useful tool for recording what your horse is like currently and then over time you can record changes in their behaviour.
You can download the chart here http://files.parelli.com/HorsenalityChart.pdf
I distinctly remember all three of my main riding instructors (who are BHSAI, BHSSM & BHSI) talking in some depth about the individual personalities, abilities, needs and "best approaches" of the horses I rode. It certainly wasn't a case of "if horse does this, you do that" with any of them. That's my personal experience anyway...
Og ! Good Grief ! One of them is a dumb old BHS instructor giving out dogmatic instructions, and the other is a thoroughly enlightened, horse-focused, All-Natural organic candy stick-waver giving out the same instruction. Get with the program, nitwit.
Get with the program, nitwit.
Can't you just disagree without being so utterly offensive about it?
Parelli's horsenality stuff sounds like a distance learning competency module for the overly analytical horseperson. Isn't there a danger that filling out your horsenality chart becomes an end in itself, and you forget why you were bothering in the first place? Also human beings are very good at interpreting things to suit themselves, so how accurate and free from bias will the chart be?
Personally I'd rather learn first hand from someone who knows what they are talking about - the FBHS who I used to have lessons & lectures with had spent a lifetime with horses and done stuff I can only dream of doing. I wouldn't swap that for a Parelli download!
One thing I know for absolute certain is that my horse won't know or care whether or not I've done her a Horsenality chart
Personally I'd rather learn first hand from someone who knows what they are talking about - the FBHS who I used to have lessons & lectures with had spent a lifetime with horses and done stuff I can only dream of doing. I wouldn't swap that for a Parelli download!
One thing I know for absolute certain is that my horse won't know or care whether or not I've done her a Horsenality chart
hmm, wonder if it was the same FBHS i had?!!
they got on horse (in just a cap ) thinking they could resolve horse in the hour session, got sweet FA out of it apart from a very confused and worried horse that almost reared with them! hmm, so much for that session! lol. THAT fbhs obviously didnt believe all horses are different 
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So what would work best to make you more agreeable, filling in a chart, treats & a clicker or a good hard slap?
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