Mobile stables/field shelters etc

[MissMare]

Has anyone got any- lots of change going on here and we are hoping to buy some land. I am looking at stable options and eventually will apply for planning permission for things but looking at mobile as a possible temporary solution. But one thing is bothering me. What stops them just blowing away? OH has a good point in asking this. Is anything holding them down or can they be dangerous in high winds? Is there any other issues I need to think of?

 

[tubby]

To be honest the answer is nothing if the wind is gale force,even with pegs in the corners it can still lift off ( someone I know had hers sail right across the road & smash to pieces )

 

[devonlass]

Has anyone got any- lots of change going on here and we are hoping to buy some land. I am looking at stable options and eventually will apply for planning permission for things but looking at mobile as a possible temporary solution. But one thing is bothering me. What stops them just blowing away? OH has a good point in asking this. Is anything holding them down or can they be dangerous in high winds? Is there any other issues I need to think of?

TBH not a lot can stop them blowing away.I have lost one in strong winds years ago and my friend lost a very substantial one in the winds we had just a couple of weeks ago,it was well staked down as well.
Only things you can do is make sure you leave vents at the top so the wind can blow through rather than lifting it up,stake down as well as you can and most importantly IME look carefully at placement.Put them in dipped land as you can and as well shelterd as you can.I understand the need for them sometimes on on the more exposed areas but don't be tempted to do it.

Just a word of warning BTW about planning permission for stable,even mobile ones.Same friend who lost the shelter has been battling for ages to get planning for two stables and has been a nightmare and cost thousands (I could not believe the costs TBH),and she already has two stables that were there before she bought the land (mobile type although very nice and wouldn't know they were not static),but still the council were not keen.She also got refused equestrian use and they have been so picky it's untrue.

She had no idea it would be so difficult or stressful and says now she definitely would not have bothered if she knew.Several other people have told her similar stories since though so I think it's the norm these days.
Might be very different in your area of course,and with your council,but please do look into it thoroughly if you haven't already as would be terrible to buy land assuming you could do something with it and then find out you can't.Even if it is sold as already having planning,please do check exactly what that means.

 

[devonlass]

( someone I know had hers sail right across the road & smash to pieces )

Sorry just seen this.That is exactly what happened to mine,lifted up and over a 8ft hedge that was behind it and smashed to bits across the lane,and it was a bit shelter so lot's of debris.Luckily it was early hours of morning and no one was driving along the road,worried me enough not to put another up though.Apart from someone getting seriously hurt just imagine the liability issues.

Horses had the sense not to be anywhere near it was the only saving grace.TBH I found they never used it anyway apart from in summer to get away from the flies!!

 

[volcy]

These are ours... We are in a raised but sheltered location to be in the driest bit of the field but with trees around etc for a bit of protection. We have it staked down with some tent peg like things that my friends OH made..

We don't have planning permission as it's a mobile shelterbut look around to see if there are any locally - there are loads round our way and ask if others have had planning.

 

[Trewsers]

Has anyone got any- lots of change going on here and we are hoping to buy some land. I am looking at stable options and eventually will apply for planning permission for things but looking at mobile as a possible temporary solution. But one thing is bothering me. What stops them just blowing away? OH has a good point in asking this. Is anything holding them down or can they be dangerous in high winds? Is there any other issues I need to think of?

When OH and I first moved in where we are now, we bought some field shelters - (mobile) from Redmire. They were fantastic and I cannot recommend them enough. They gave us some good advice about planning etc. Where we are they VERY strict. Sooooo, technically the shelters have to be mobile - ours are on skids. They DO move about in the high wind. BUT, you can be sneaky and get them to stay put.
Once they are "bedded" in they are much more stable (forgive the pun!). We had proper stable doors put on ours too - so you wouldn't know really that they weren't real stables! The only thing that weirded me out at first, was the fact that the field isn't totally 100 percent flat - and at first when I was tucking them up at night it was like being the House of Fun at Blackpool pleasure beachlol! The "sliding" sensation is weird, but you get used to it.
I put thick mats down inside - supplied from Redmire - really good - but you can't stop moles digging up!lol
If you want any info on how to "secure" them feel free to pm me (I won't go into too much detail on here because you never know who reads these forums and I don'tget on with my neighbours - we've had endless trouble with him reporting us to the council so I have to apply caution!) NOT THAT I HAVE DONE ANYTHING WRONG YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!
(Sorry for the cloak and dagger!)
I can happily post you a pic if you like - to give you an idea.

 

[Trewsers]

Just wanted to add; we have planning permission for proper stables and have a separate block of them now, but it is nice to have the field shelters as well - they really are useful, cos you never know when you might need them! It is a constant "beef" with my neighbours as to why I keep the shelters - but I'm not explaining it to them!!!!lol, sorry, have turned this into a right RANT!!!!

 

[Trewsers]

Gosh, sorry, just thought as well, whatever you do, go and have a chat with your planning officer at the council, because I know for a fact, some councils are VERY strict and you can still get into a lot of bother even though you deem them mobile, sometimes they have differing view on what is actually mobile and what is not. Also, they might make you move them every so often.

 

[MissMare]

Thanks everyone, some really useful advice there.

We are on a corner of a few borders and are looking at land some distance away, some is closer. There are about 10 plots I am looking into- the planning departments views and attitudes being one of the priorities. One of the plots has plans passed for something equine much bigger than what I am wanting which is great, but it looks like property in the area is out of our price range! We are still in early stages but whatever I decide to go for, I know we will need something quick and temporary- which will become useful as a field shelter at a later date I think

I have been very organised, and each plot has it's own spreadsheet, and my brother (who deals with planning depts a lot as a property developer) is spending a day going through all the different departments to find out which will be suitable for what I am wanting and which wont be.

 

[Demson]

When I looked into having a mobile shelter I was surprised to find that
1) it had to be moved every 6 weeks
2) If it was on a concrete base it was then deemed as static and not mobile so planning permission was required.

As for stopping it blowing away in heavy winds sorry I have no idea's except what has already been suggested.

 

[Trewsers]

When I looked into having a mobile shelter I was surprised to find that
1) it had to be moved every 6 weeks
2) If it was on a concrete base it was then deemed as static and not mobile so planning permission was required.

As for stopping it blowing away in heavy winds sorry I have no idea's except what has already been suggested.

Wow! That is strict! Our council aren't that keen on them, but they don't insist on moving them that often. Ours didn't want a concrete base either.

 

[devonlass]

Wow! That is strict! Our council aren't that keen on them, but they don't insist on moving them that often. Ours didn't want a concrete base either.

Some councils are really strict about shelters.People think because they're mobile you don't need permission but with some councils you do.I actually just put mine up without planning at the place was at few years ago as was told lady up the road had been turned down for one as was within 200 feet of a residential dwelling (row of 4 cottages on the lane nowhere near field really and totally out of sight),no conditions just said flat out no to any form of shelter.

Obviously some councils are more slack,but is not as stright forward or easy as people think just because they are technically mobile.

 

[Trewsers]

Some councils are really strict about shelters.People think because they're mobile you don't need permission but with some councils you do.I actually just put mine up without planning at the place was at few years ago as was told lady up the road had been turned down for one as was within 200 feet of a residential dwelling (row of 4 cottages on the lane nowhere near field really and totally out of sight),no conditions just said flat out no to any form of shelter.

Obviously some councils are more slack,but is not as stright forward or easy as people think just because they are technically mobile.

Yeah, I think we were lucky - either that or our council are quite flexible....Now floodlights - there's another story..................