My horse will work in an outline in sitting trot but not rising trot!

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Dylan will work in an outline in sitting trot but not rising trot????

We tend to do slow trot when sitting cause I find it easier to sit too. Is this why? Do horses find it harder to work in an outline if they are going faster?
 
This might be because when you are doing sitting trot you are less balanced and you are holding on to his mouth more so thereby creating a 'false' outline. Try and ride your horse as straight as you can then he should automaticly go into a nice rounded shape abeit slightly above the verital.
Hope that helps.
 
Don't know if this is related, but I find it easier to get any horse (bar a couple with very bouncy trots!) working in an outline in sitting trot! I always thought it was to do with better contact with seat (so you can feel more what the horse is doing), easier to keep a steady contact, easier to use your legs effectively...

Don't take it from me though - I'm no expert! Would be interested to hear what more experienced people have to add...
 
My pony does the same. With us, it's because when doing sitting trot I usually abandon reins and work on him listening to my legs and seat aids. Which therefore gets him to come into an outline naturally.
It's easier to give "proper" seat aids when sitting so IMO it's easier to get a horse into a proper outline rather than using reins to get a false outline.
 
There is less weight displacement happening during sitting trot than rising trot which is why some horses find it far easier to cope with, Having the riders weight taking huge ups and downs as it does in posting is really hard work on the horses back.
 
doushiedoo said:
We tend to do slow trot when sitting cause I find it easier to sit too. Is this why? Do horses find it harder to work in an outline if they are going faster?
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You'll find this is quite a key factor - horses need to be in a slow, balanced, rythmical stride to work in a true outline, so it is possible that whe nyo uare rising you are trotting too fast, whereas in sitting you are slower.

Also in sitting trot the rider generally has a better leg-seat-hand connection which is needed.
 
Agree with CER1389, you might be rising too fast, slow your rise to the speed you want not the speed the horse wants (this may feel odd at first and out of time, but the horse will quickly fall into pace with you) and then bear down during the sitting part of the trot and rise fully with impulsion. This will work wonders on your rising trot and maintaining the outline.:)
 
some of us also tend to swing our legs away slightly in rising trot which causes an uneven leg contact - I know cos I'm terrible for it! I really have to think to keep my legs on when I rise :o

My horse goes best when I have no stirrups as this makes me have even more leg contact :)
 
i go into canter then ride a downward transition from the seat and as she comes back kep it nice and round, i catch two rises in trot as she comes back to trot, keep your frame and then it should give a nice trot if you are balanced :) it lets you into their back in rising trot
 
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