This is going to sound stupid but...

Flipo's Mum

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things are going too well and I’m getting worried.:redface: I’ve been riding about three/four times a week since Flip came back from retraining and we’re having tiny successes all over the place but I’m gradually becoming more and more unnerved by our positive experiences. You can be assured that this is down to my ‘glass half empty’ mentality and I need someone to give me a kick up the backside to stop being so ungrateful.

Whenever people ask me how things are going I’m extremely careful about how I word my answer. When I got him home from retraining I had instructions to stay in the safety of the school at first, have someone there with me to watch and do lots of transitions to make sure Flip and I realised that I’m in charge. I was then, when comfortable, to start venturing out the school with a foot soldier, first of all just walking back to the field, then gradually extending our little jaunts further and further. I didn’t expect to be doing this within the first three months but it would seem that I’ve progressed a lot faster –only when I’ve felt capable - but on reflection between rides its freaking me out that its going too well.

I’ve overcome my mounting issue – I don’t need someone holding him now. We’ve been out on a couple of little walks (with a trot thrown in to check I can stop him) and I cantered last week in the school (allbeit messily and not to be repeated until I’ve had lessons from my RI on another horse). On Friday last, I had no helper and walked Flip to the school in hand, mounted alone, had the best session ever and then got off, opened the gate, got back on and rode back to the field. I am now faced with the opportunity to ride tonight, repeating what we did on Friday and I’m starting to feel the pressure.

I don’t know if it has any significance but when I rode back alone I was constantly assessing the ground, wondering how soft it was (my fall on stoney track two months ago has left me with no feeling in a patch of skin on my left hip – a small price to pay I know). The couple of times I’ve been out before I’ve had someone walking with me or someone waiting at specific points and I guess this has kept my mind off these horrible thoughts but being alone even singing didn’t help.

I’m only now starting to get to know how Flipo is under saddle, he disagrees sometimes in the school and uses his strength to his advantage, he really enjoys being out for hacks and I’m trying to keep it interesting by doing only short 20 min sessions in the school and have my friend to ride him out on hacks once a week. Yesterday was the first glimpse of a regression. My friend had just mounted and was starting to walk along past our field when Flipo’s field mate neighed and Flipo seemed to be veering (in a walk) towards the fence. My friend tried to correct this by nudging him over with her leg and all of a sudden she was away in front of me and trying to turn him round at a canter. I watched in horror, but she’s got stickability and brought him back to a stand still. I asked her to explain what exactly had happened afterwards and it would seem that outside of the school Flipo doesn’t quite get the aids to budge over and reacted more than he should. That coupled with the possiblity that the saddle was a bit squint (corrected later on) could have caused the aid to be applied in the wrong place. Either way I think writing this is therapy in itself, I’m scared its going to happen to me and it just confirms my suspicions that things have been going too well.
Arrrrghhh someone sort me out!!!!

ETA: I really hope this doesn't come across as self indulgent, I know I should be so grateful that things are going well and I am. Just think I'm having a confidence crisis! Ice lollies for those who got through my rambling!
 
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*kaboooom*

*blows FM to timbuktoo*


*pulls rope and drags her back*

Better?

You have to have a good month, your passing the vibes onto us - we are losing weight and had a really good ride on Sunday - so you HAVE to do well - when you do well we do well!!!!
 
I don't think its stupid to be fair flipo's mum. I too would feel the same. If I saw my horse react like that I would be worried he would do it again with me on board.

But, the key is to realise the reasons for it, he did not understand the command, maybe thought it was canter... maybe with his training he is super reactive and went to canter cos 3 nudges means canter... there are lots of possibles really...you wont know for sure unless you were riding him. With all the schooling he has had maybe he is sharper now and your friend forget maybe?

You have worked hard recently to gain some confidence, don't think your stupid for feeling the way you are feeling, its fine...just carry on the good work...maybe go back to the begining tonight, just the basics... leave pushing yourself for another day!:biggrin:
 
I think I know how you feel. Things were going so well with Rusty that I was almost afraid to believe it - then we had a little incident on Sunday.

But, I'm telling myself, it was just that one morning and - like Flip cantering with your friend - no harm to anyone and nothing more should be read into it.

I'll be back out Tues after work and expect to just carry on as usual - mentally prepare myself that it's just another day and he'll be his usual steady self. what I think we both need to ensure is that we don't transmit our nerves and "what ifs" to our horses. Easier said than done, I know.
 
Well done FM!! :smug:

I know that feeling lol!! you start to think 'hang on things are actually starting to go okay?? what the hell is happening??'

All thats happening is that your getting your reward from working so hard with flip!

my OH used to say to me 'if you keep thinking bad things are going to happen they will!'...so that stopped my mind from wondering lol! just keep thinking positive and try not to allow any of those worries to creep in.

Remeber FM this is what you've earnt & achieved. Its not a miracle. Its down to your hard work.

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your not being daft I'm like this in every walk of life, focus on the positive and enjoy the rest of your summer thats what I tell myself even though I don't believe it half the time.
 
Now Mrs, just go back and read your diary for 10 mins and see just how far you have come.

Would you believe I went for a 2 hrs hack today with some friends (NOT, and I repeat NOT on my horse) at a riding school, it's the place Heathcliff was on full livery before I got him home, so they know me well. I asked for a nice quiet plodder, not sharp, nothing big (I'm only 5'2) and just a nice ride. So we turn up, the girls I was with get my ideal cobs/ponies, I'm due to ride Ofinioa (yeah right) who has just been out for an hour with the owner (maybe to calm him down) :redcarded: but the owners Husband pipes up, Oh No, Maria should ride Starr, she'll love him, so off the girls run and bring a full up 16'2 4 year old monster, oh my god, I nearly ran!!!!:poop::poop: He's lovely I was assured, don't worry, you can ride (yeah right) so up I go and oh my god was I scared....

So we leave the yard, I'm so scared I couldn't even breath, 1st mission is to cross a very long bridge over a very very busy motorway - NOOOOOOO.... all I wanted was a fag and a large vodka and this was at 10am this morning. Into the country park and come on lets trot....the bouncyiest trot ever, then right when we go round the corner, M in front and canter :hot::hot::hot: WHAT?!?

And do you know, HE WAS FANTASTIC...I had the best ride I've had in 2 years and I soooo want to buy him (yes he's for sale at 4K!!!) Once I realised he had brakes, wasn't silly (had a couple of small spooks at water in canter but I stayed on and pushed on!) I had the time of my life.

Now I need to transfer that back to Heathcliff.

Small hurdles, big cliffs, one at a time Mrs.:biggrin:
 
Well after being blasted all the way to timbucktoo (sp?!) (thanks PF!!:tongue:) I've just got back and chickened out of riding tonight. Far too much pressure on myself so I'm gonna take a step back. I think I actually miss not riding and getting to potter about doing groundwork and playing with Flip in the field. I've had so much stuff going on at work and with my family that if I'm not riding then I'm busy so not getting the bit in the middle where I can just spend time with Flip.
Does anyone else put pressure on themselves to ride a certain number of times a week? I'm just really conscious the summer's going to end soon and I'll only be getting on twice a week - I don't want the new found confidence to disappear over the winter when the ground is going to be harder if I fall!!
Nat17, that is exactly what I've been doing, funny at the time I was happy that it was a freak thing, but now its upset me a bit. And the interesting thing is that I know I wouldn't have done what she did - I would have used my reins and leg together which I know Flip would have been fine with (neither of us are that well schooled lol!)
This is all about protecting our tiny bit of confidence isn't it tbaynancy?! Got to be so careful, but at the same time not too careful otherwise we won't get anywhere! I used your visualisation from that book you recommended to get over our mounting fear. Must try and apply it to this situation.
Its just so bloody foreign to me feeling like that things going well is allowed. Not that I have a crappy life in general. Just not familiar with really positive experiences. Its unnerving.:unsure:
Yep Vicki I agree, but it surely can't be all plain sailing from here so I'm expecting a bad thing soon!!
Daftdraught I will try but AAAARRRGGGHHH someone give me a lobotomy asap.:hot::cold:
 
Now Mrs, just go back and read your diary for 10 mins and see just how far you have come.

Would you believe I went for a 2 hrs hack today with some friends (NOT, and I repeat NOT on my horse) at a riding school, it's the place Heathcliff was on full livery before I got him home, so they know me well. I asked for a nice quiet plodder, not sharp, nothing big (I'm only 5'2) and just a nice ride. So we turn up, the girls I was with get my ideal cobs/ponies, I'm due to ride Ofinioa (yeah right) who has just been out for an hour with the owner (maybe to calm him down) :redcarded: but the owners Husband pipes up, Oh No, Maria should ride Starr, she'll love him, so off the girls run and bring a full up 16'2 4 year old monster, oh my god, I nearly ran!!!!:poop::poop: He's lovely I was assured, don't worry, you can ride (yeah right) so up I go and oh my god was I scared....

So we leave the yard, I'm so scared I couldn't even breath, 1st mission is to cross a very long bridge over a very very busy motorway - NOOOOOOO.... all I wanted was a fag and a large vodka and this was at 10am this morning. Into the country park and come on lets trot....the bouncyiest trot ever, then right when we go round the corner, M in front and canter :hot::hot::hot: WHAT?!?

And do you know, HE WAS FANTASTIC...I had the best ride I've had in 2 years and I soooo want to buy him (yes he's for sale at 4K!!!) Once I realised he had brakes, wasn't silly (had a couple of small spooks at water in canter but I stayed on and pushed on!) I had the time of my life.

Now I need to transfer that back to Heathcliff.

Small hurdles, big cliffs, one at a time Mrs.:biggrin:

Check you out riding a 4yr old - I think you lie!! :giggle: Confidence lacking my butt! And yes, you're right, I think I need to plateau for a bit and get used to this confidence thing. I don't need to progress any further for a wee while.
 
You may have tiny hiccups fm, but you know you can recover from then now dont you :tongue:

I feel the same about the pressure thing, i keep thinking 'sh*t it will be winter soon! dark nights at 5pm! better get riding!'

Infact im going to go for a hack now hehe! Cant waste the sunny weather :giggle:

But yeah if your really feeling too much under pressure just do some ground work as you suggested, its not taking a step back at all. Its just doing somthing different :biggrin:
 
I can totally empathise with you on this one - you just dont feel like you can take anything for granted because you just dont trust him so much now.

I have gone through something similar with my boy and I now compulsively touch wood and salute magpies as the good days are completely outweighing the bad and I keep telling myself it cant last and when it goes wrong it will be really bad.

I think it's healthy to not put yourself under too much pressure - if you have 50good days, your confidence will improve so when he does have have a wobble hopefully you will be able to cope with it better.

Sometimes it's okay to take a little step back into your comfort zone and you'll find your ready to take a step forward again in your own time - will probably happen sooner than you think.

IN the meantime - just look how far you've come and be proud!:smug:
 
hi there Filipo's mum -- glad to hear things are going so well

now, with regards to your feelings -- there are many possible reasons for these feeelings:

the one I would buy into right now, having read your other threads and so on -- is that your unconscious is just throwing these things up as questions to you -- and needs a bit more proof that you are paying attention to yourself in all this

so one thing to do is to make sure you have a day or two where all you do is CONSOLIDATE the progress you have made: so tell yousrself top JUST do what you did the previous day for TWO days -- you will find then that your unconscious goes " ok, that's better" --

by making progress EVERY day, as you are finding out -- that turns into pressure for the next day, so make sure you build in these consolidatoin days where, however well it is going, you just hang out, or do what you did the day before

Consolidation periosd are key for confidence and for convincing your unconscious that you CAN be trusted

of course consolidation doesn't mean you have to be bored -- you can do the same thing as you did the day before but in a different part of the arena, or a different part of the field...you can do stuff JUST as walk but do it with some different shapes -- you can hang out, bath your horse -- all sorts of things where you just make sure that what you are doing in solid before moving on.

good lkuck and well done!

Cathy
 
Your are NOT ALONE!!!!!!!!!! I too am always thinking, "well, things are just going a bit too well" and this in turn can put me under pressure when it needn't. For instance, if I have a brilliant ride in the school and come away feeling breathless (in a good way) and really good about the way it all went, I become quite anxious later on thinking that the next day, I have to repeat it! And, horror or horrors - what if it doesn't go so well next time???????! How will I cope?????????! Its like a precious little bubble that I daren't burst.......daft isn't it?!
I tend to pressurise myself to ride every day, this is because mainly, the vet said it was the only way we were ever going to get Storm slimmed down! She is on as little feed as possible for her size, and the vet said we would only achieve our ideal weight if I increased her exercise. As you can imagine, this does put the pressure on sometimes! Cos, I do feel that I can't just "pootle", I have to be quite structured whenever possible.
Well, I think you are doing brilliantly by the sounds of it, so don't worry!!!!!!!!!
 
It sounds like you're doing amazing!
Thankyou!! I think thats the problem - I didn't plan on doing so well so soon!!
I think I crave a hiccup so I know we're not constantly looking for the big fall. I also hope that like you say Doogie, if I do have a bad day, if its come after 50 good days then it won't hurt so bad but I'm just not sure how my confidence will fair. Very difficult to predict how you'll feel isn't it!

I think you've put me at ease fth - consolidate, much better word than my 'let's plateaux' thinking!!! I did nothing on Monday and yesterday took him to the school for a session and he was a wee sh!te, I think he knew I was nervous but the difference was this time he didn't get away with it. I'm glad it didn't go so well though and I came off thinking there's no way I'm riding you back to the field when you're like that so I took him for a long walk and thats very reminiscent of past times when I was too scared to ride. I'm keeping your word in my head to comfort me and will start trying to just vary it slightly to make things more interesting. Tonight i'm going to do some ground work and see if I can get him lunging. Feels nice to be giving myself a break for a change and I'm sure Flip will feel it aswell. But I also think as Trewsers says - I'm feeling under pressure to keep Flip fitter as he's been looking so much better lately and I want him to feel better aswell.

This regaining confidence stuff isn't straight forward is it. I never thought I'd be feeling worse because things are going well?!! Oh the brain, such a puzzling thing!:redface::giggle:
 
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I hope you realised I was considerate enough to hit your numb bit so it didnt hurt ;):p hehe.

I love riding, but get fed up of it quickly too - Ive managed twice this week, and possibly a third on Friday - but once a week is plenty for us!

Have the same issues as you - if I ride, I dont have poo pick/playtime with them, and if I do the responsible jobs, I dont have time to ride. Hoping with regular work hours I can plan a bit better - ride at weekends and jobs and playtime in the week maybe :)
 
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