Left brain introvert right brain extrovert....what exactly IS IT?

Parelli's horsenality stuff sounds like a distance learning competency module for the overly analytical horseperson.

I agree, isn't this another potential opportunity to stop seeing the wood for the trees?
 
So once you have downloaded the chart and filled it in ... then what!?

You've discovered whether your horse is right or left brained, and either an introvert or extrovert

Where do you go from here? Do they tell you how you should then train your horse?

I am actually genuinely interested as I do not know alot about Parelli
 
With regards to the horse/horesenality, horses like people have personality's & the reference of putting PP LB/RB etc 'labels' on horses characteristics is not such an awful idea as it may seem. All it does is simplifies it in many ways with easy catogories to understand it as there are so many people who just do not consider this, but it is much like calling your horse 'reactive' sensitive' spirited' 'nervous' 'east going' 'lazy' etc. We are all conditioned by life, be it our nationality (my partner is Italian & i would describe them as firey!) our early memories that we hold in our subconcience, trauma's, fears, expectations etc etc so it would be easy to put labels on all of us good or bad! The point is as long as we understand the so called label & we work with it what's the problem in doing that? you could say right brain with a heart & understanding or a nut job with a heart & understanding! We are all aiming for the same thing :)
My 7 year old daughter is taking a big interest in horses, she is having excellent lessons with my favourite BHS instructor & i trust her implicitly, basically she gets on her already tacked up horse, she know's very little about the horse until it cut's across the sandschool with her and my daughter thinking it's funny (which it is) the instructor then said 'oh i forgot to tell you he's a lazy cheat! ' Hmmm? yes he is, but what i explained to my daughter afterwards is that the horse in name is not lazy or a cheat to which she was confused about so i explained to her that he was just simply bored, irratated by yet another unknown body on his back and he has innocent power over you! now all the will in the world & the very best of instruction can get results & experience for the rider but the horses opinion isn't hugely considered! This is where PP does consider the horses needs with the expectation of results in a happy manner & 'Horsenality' should be considered as a term in this respect to them as a person/horse with needs much like us.
This compassionate BHS Instructor tought me strength to ride the 'tricky' ones, fluidity, confidence etc but at times i felt it was against the horses will & my own. i got results yes & so did the horse but why was he reluctant to be bought in for such extravegance? i was tought to ride in the same way with determination regardless of refusals, temper tantrums or whatever, the BHS want positive results as does PP but i've got to say PP encourages awareness of the horses personal needs more so than the traditional 'getting on with it' BHS style, i am grateful to every bhsi i have met, i gained alot & i finished stage 2 myself but honestly feel my daughter, me, my horse are in safer hands just at level 1 PP, NO NOT SAFER BUT HAPPIER because we all understand each others personalities so much better a bit like horsenalities!!!! :D :D :D For me that would not of happened until i studied horsenalities, i used to be called a hard horsey person & i was a hard person, it's changed me so thats my proof! :p
 
My impression of "Horsenality" is that its like giving your boyfriend a cosmopolitan quiz to find out if you relationship has a future....

It also smacks of humanising to me.....

Well thats just my opinion anyhow, maybe its helped a lot of people that don't have the experience of dealing with many horses, to approach they're own horses training with the right attitude.

However I've yet to hear an opinion from someone who it has helped....
 
Well i wouldn't take a cosmopolitan quiz to work out my compatibility with regards to my man, i have tried & it's a load of rubbish by the way! (my opinion :) ) But i would however work through a problem through better understanding of his background as this has a huge bearing & therefore 'needs' in general for a better relationship. So therfore i guess i'd do the same for my horse. Wouldn't you before ruling them out? You might be suprised at the results!!!!!! i was horse & man lol. Now a happy wamen & a happy horse to be with. :cool:
 
I've just actually looked at the 'horseonality' chart and to be honest it does seem a bit silly - aren't a lot of the things just going to be rider opinion rather than truly indicative of the horse? I also love the fact that 'charismatic' is included......so come on, own up, whose horse is secretly the equine Barack Obama? Also, what exactly is 'bracy', and what the heck does he mean by 'can't think'? How do we know horses even DO think? And how on earth would you tell the difference between one that can and one that can't? A lot of the characteristics actually seem to be the smae thing as well, just different words used to descirbe them. I also don't like the fact that whilst 'tendency to kick' and tendency to bit' are included, but that the chart doesn't differentiate between whether that is kicking horses or kicking people.
 
My impression of "Horsenality" is that its like giving your boyfriend a cosmopolitan quiz to find out if you relationship has a future....

It also smacks of humanising to me.....

Well thats just my opinion anyhow, maybe its helped a lot of people that don't have the experience of dealing with many horses, to approach they're own horses training with the right attitude.

However I've yet to hear an opinion from someone who it has helped....

Hi! here I am. the person that it helped.:p;)

As most of you know by now, I am not an avid fan of any one method, however parelli was the first popular methodology I came across.

My NHI and I have differing opinions on the PP horsenality chart thing. He basically thinks it a load of ****(ryhmes with bit!) but that is his perogative. He thinks it overcomplicates things and I have to agree with that to some extent. I think people (especially die hard PP enthusiasts) grab on to it and become far to analytical about it. I also think my NHI thinks it a load of **** because he doesnt need a chart to figure out a horses personality, he can do that for himself, as he is phenomenal with horses, truly amazing, he has an innate ability around horses that is awesome to watch. To be honest I reckon he could give PP a real good run for his money, but I digress.

The thing is, that not everyone out there is as good as he is or as experienced. I really think that if the horsenality chart had been around when my NHI was first getting in to the natural way of thinking that he may of given it a bit more respect as he may of found it of some use as a tool to figuring out horses as individuals on a bit of a deeper level.

When I first saw the horsenality chart and plotted out Flickers personality, I was amazed how much more I learned about him than I had already found out. It showed up alot of things about him that were not so obvious to me before and from there I started to understand his behaviour from a new perspective. I have not, however, clung on to it for dear life and used it as a yard stick to everything I do with him from now on. I don't have one stuck up on the tack room wall and everyone day/week/month, examine it for any slight change that may of occured as I have a much more independant feel for what is going on behind Flickers scene than that. But that is just me.

I do see why it is a useful tool when applied in the right way. The problem I have with PNH sometimes is that the people who follow it soooo rigidly and fanatically do so to the detrement of their horsemanship as they are clinging on to the methodology and missing the concept and true feeling behind it. PP does however does encourage people to think outside the box, just as long as that box says PP on it and you stay within reaching distance and don't even go and look at another box.:rolleyes:;) But that is him protecting his brand, as any astute business man who wishes to be succesful would do. (well, one that been at least clever enough to employ people to brand it and market it as cleverly as they have). Problem is I think they in danger of seriously overcomplicating the whole horsemanship thing with all the DVDS, tools, charts, bits, saddles, shims etc etc.....all of that stuff hides the true concept I reckon.

Other than my NHI, my main guru if I was asked to choose one would be Tom Dorrance. His philosophy is so simple and uncluttered and so horse based rather than gadget filled.

He definitely the thinking persons horseman!:cool:
 
Bracey is nervous or unsure like we are before exams or meeting someone new & 'can't think' is when you are freeking out because your mind is doing overload! Say when you are genuinely confused or scared about something or someone. You go numb or panic like a horse crossing 'freeky' water for the first time. I'm sure if we ALL think back, we have felt that in ourselves at some point in our life & in our horses whether we inderstood at the time or not. Do we care if others care? up the individual but propbably yes. Otherwise why make an issue?
 
Well i wouldn't take a cosmopolitan quiz to work out my compatibility with regards to my man, i have tried & it's a load of rubbish by the way! (my opinion :) ) But i would however work through a problem through better understanding of his background as this has a huge bearing & therefore 'needs' in general for a better relationship. So therfore i guess i'd do the same for my horse. Wouldn't you before ruling them out? You might be suprised at the results!!!!!! i was horse & man lol. Now a happy wamen & a happy horse to be with. :cool:

A starting point is that what you mean? That is how I would see it but for me and my experience with horses its too general to be applied as a be all and end all. Quoting: "RB horses act instinctively, without thinking, just like they operate in the wild." I find horses are constantly learning wether you are with them or not and too assume that your RB horse is always going to react a certain way, to me, is a very dangerous assumption. Its always a surprise when you introduce a wild young horse to something you can be pretty sure he has never seen before and rather than act instinctivly as he has done up the last couple of days you suddenly see the coggs turning......he's learnt already that not everything he has never seen before is going to eat him so this time he takes a look and thinks....mmmmm

Horses personalities also change throughout their lives, does PP recommend that the quizz be taken at regular intervals?

Cosmo quizess, reading my stars, stuff like that I do, but I still make up my own mind based on my own experience. (I've known more horses than men by the way :p;) )
 
I've just actually looked at the 'horseonality' chart and to be honest it does seem a bit silly - aren't a lot of the things just going to be rider opinion rather than truly indicative of the horse? I also love the fact that 'charismatic' is included......so come on, own up, whose horse is secretly the equine Barack Obama? Also, what exactly is 'bracy', and what the heck does he mean by 'can't think'? How do we know horses even DO think? And how on earth would you tell the difference between one that can and one that can't? A lot of the characteristics actually seem to be the smae thing as well, just different words used to descirbe them. I also don't like the fact that whilst 'tendency to kick' and tendency to bit' are included, but that the chart doesn't differentiate between whether that is kicking horses or kicking people.

Hi Hash,

def gotta quickly step in on your question on wether or not horses think. My horse could def not think! At all! Just panic and run.:eek:

But to see him now versus then, you would def agree that horses can most certainly think. He now blatantly can think his way through things rather than panicking and running away and it an absolute joy to behold to be honest. To see him now sometimes makes me well up (soft slushy cow, I know!!) cos I can't tell you how badly reactive he used to be. His behaviour nearly killed him he was that extreme!

I can def tell the difference between one that can think and one that can't because they too wrapped up in fear or confusion to engage their clear thought process.:)
 
Hi Hash,

def gotta quickly step in on your question on wether or not horses think. My horse could def not think! At all! Just panic and run.:eek:

But to see him now versus then, you would def agree that horses can most certainly think. He now blatantly can think his way through things rather than panicking and running away and it an absolute joy to behold to be honest. To see him now sometimes makes me well up (soft slushy cow, I know!!) cos I can't tell you how badly reactive he used to be. His behaviour nearly killed him he was that extreme!

I can def tell the difference between one that can think and one that can't because they too wrapped up in fear or confusion to engage their clear thought process.:)
Oh I geddit now! Tbh I wasn't quite sure what he meant by 'can't think'. I was like, 'can't think about WHAT?' (for some reason I was envisaging a horse with a monocle reading The Times and debating the Gaza occupation. Its a wonder they even let me out of the house :rolleyes:).
But in the sense you suggest, then my mare definitely can 'think'. She does the same as your chap - she sees something frightening and I can feel her start to tense, but I just let her stop, reassure her and she spends a minute or so 'thinking' about it before going past the hedge monster or the horse-eating truck or whatever it was she was afraid of. I always describe it as 'weighing up' though, so I didn't realise that's what was meant on the chart. I think I'm a bit too dense for it tbh - I need a blooming guide to help me fill it in lol :D:p:cool:
 
Someone mentioned cosmo quizzes - but on a serious note there are a number of key profiling tools that are used in business for professional development.

I think the parelli R/L and E/I probably maps most closely to the Meyers-Briggs profiles

I seem to recall that Linda has done a fair amount of work relating to Neuro Linguistic Programming as well ?

Most of the profiles I have done have been self-assessed i.e. it is MY opinion of me, but often they can be extended to be 360 degrees i.e. people who work for me, with me, and who I work for. That is really interesting !

The difference with the Parelli profiling is that it is the rider's interpretation. So for example my mother would describe one of our ponies as lazy, argumentative, whereas I see the same behaviour as showing insecurity ? (Can't remember what that translates to on the template - but hopefully you see what I mean ?)

The self-profiling is useful for me to understand my preferences, and other people's, and how they affect behaviour, teams etc. But there is a LOT of research and stats behind them.

I am not sure the horseanalities have quite the same scientific backing to them ?
 

Thanks but I'm already on that page, maybe its the blonde in me but I don't see anywhere to do the quiz?

I did one ages ago on my horse but i didn't think it went anywhere near fully interpreting her character. It predicted certain aspect of behaviour that she has as being her whole personality, she is way more complex than that and to be honest I thought the assumptions on there where dangerous.

I think it said she was RB Extrovert...however I see a little of RB and a little of LB and to be honest sometimes she can be introverted too!!! Sometimes she will just react to a situation without thinking and then sometimes she'll "bottle" her fear and then she will later completly over react to a lesser stimulus.

In my experience assumptions about horses are dangerous and it is far better to learn how to "read" your horse in a situation as they often react in unexpected ways. That way you have a better chance of reacting yourself (or not!) appropriatly to prevent hurt or upset.
 
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