Coronavirus

I honestly don't know how people who are vulnerable are coping with this

We supposedly vulnerable are better protected than medics and NHS staff. They are the ones impacted by people being careless and hospital cases going up. Rates in our area are bad.
 
People are being so careless and I'm sick of the ohhhh ITS FAMILY or close friends no worries there..

There was a doctor on the news last nite with some good valid points that I'M SURE will fall on deaf ears..about gathering with family or close friends.

It's not a given non household family or friends ARE SAFE..
I'M ALL IN WITH THAT.
I bet most sadly ARE NOT.

Have to think about the RISKS they are taking for themselves and other household members..
Are you even in the same planet in regards to what you feel is A BIG RISK.
You may feel less fear to getting groceries and are in and out taking lots of precautions...BUT MAYBE YOUR SISTER OR BEST FRIEND likes to go to a restraunt eat inside obviously UNMASKED.. several times a week..
Just becsuse its a relative or close friend
Do you WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE??
The ohh we do this or that every year has to stop this year..
She also went on to say people also have to weigh up friends and family with college kids coming home etc too.
Sadly I realky doubt people will.

I think big changes are coming in today's briefing a leak was that all high schools state wide going to all remote.
And some sort of a lockdown.

Something has to smack lax morons in the face to smarten up.

I was horrified a few weeks go when we had 266 cases in one day.
Yesterday it was 1283.

Why can't people see the writing on the wall for their ACTIONS
 
I'm sorry you're feeling this way, I hope things improve for you soon but I honestly don't know how people who are vunerable are coping with this. Please just know there are a few out there who really do care and are trying their absolute best to keep EVERYONE safe. Little comfort I know and I couldn't agree more, disgusted quite frankly with the majority of the species at current. That's not to say I'm up here on my high horse thinking I'm perfect I just wish I could see people making the effort.
I’m ok today Ale, but thank you, yesterday was just a culmination of a few difficult issues and reading comments (not here) where folk say things like ‘why should the 99.5 percent of us have to have restrictions just to save 0.5 percent who are about to die anyway’ just tipped me over the edge a bit.
I am very grateful to those out there who are being responsible, I can understand how tough the whole situation is for everyone who isnt hugely at risk from this, but I wish they would realise that the risk they pose to their own family and loved ones may be far worse than they could ever imagine.
 
I’m ok today Ale, but thank you, yesterday was just a culmination of a few difficult issues and reading comments (not here) where folk say things like ‘why should the 99.5 percent of us have to have restrictions just to save 0.5 percent who are about to die anyway’ just tipped me over the edge a bit.
I am very grateful to those out there who are being responsible, I can understand how tough the whole situation is for everyone who isnt hugely at risk from this, but I wish they would realise that the risk they pose to their own family and loved ones may be far worse than they could ever imagine.
Gosh that's an awful attitude isn't it. How rotten some people are saying and thinking like that. How bloody uncaring. You'd not know there was anything wrong with Mr t but he has two conditions that make him vulnerable and at risk. How truly horrible that people think that if you are at risk you are about to die anyway. Disgusting. Special place in hell for them. :mad:
 
I don't doubt that if they'd shown masks offered a high level of protection to the user then a lot of the people who say they can't wear them would suddenly be able to, or at the very least find an alternative face covering they could cope with. It's a sad society where protecting others isn't considered important.
 
Well someone told me this week that friends of theres booked for the test. Queue was so longwhen they got there, they decided not to hang about and actually get the test done. They were sent test results saying they were negative.
Well of course they were negative they never took the test. Makes you wonder whats going on. Surely they should have been sent a letter saying you didnt show up therefore results were not able to be determined, rather than negative. They could now show that letter if they were needing to go abroad or something which could be very wrong.
 
My university has just announced they expect graduation to take place as planned, in person, in a venue in mid fed next year. Erm do they think we are going to be in a better position by then as I'm not sure. As it's all the HE learners from all different courses in a small venue seems like a recipe for disaster ?
 
Our briefing ended a short time ago
EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY ...
NO GATHERING OF ....ANYONE... NOT IN A HOUSEHOLD is allowed .
NO EXCEPTIONS.
IF like us its just me and my husband.
Our gathering limit is 2..
If you have husband.. wife one child
Its 3.
WORKS FOR ME..

RIGHT AFTER THANKS GIVING THERE WILL BE A 2 WEEK PAUSE.
some things closed some further limited.
Restraunts as well as further limit
MUST TAKE RESERVATIONS ONLY and
ONLY one household per table.
So some of that stops the parties and gatherings.
She did not come out and say it about Thanksgiving but household only started immediately.

None of any of it really affects us.

Here is the metric 20201119_133207.jpg
 
Most of central scotland is going on pretty much full lockdown tonight, apart from schools being open. I went up there on Monday to clear mum's house, North Lanarkshire, one of the areas. Her neighbour came bouncing into the house uninvited no mask on. The friends who came to help me load the van, no masks on. I haven't had anyone in our own house expect the chiropodist and he was fully masked and gloved and we had masks on.

A lady came to collect a wheelchair yesterday, she lives 4 miles away. she said that someone had moved into their village, from another one a few miles away, she was going to come in no mask, said that at their village no one bothered with masks and were popping in and out of houses as usual. We have had several cases in Hawick, our nearest town, and while we are in Level 2, whereas the central belt is on Level 4. But folks from Glasgow have been coming over here for day outs - Peebles is full of them, and we met some when we dog walked at Harestanes, So folks are just not paying attention to it.

"Borders was in level 1 or 2 was "finely balanced" and that the decision had taken into account the "interconnection with neighbouring areas", particularly with regards to healthcare provided by the Lothian and Greater Glasgow and Clyde health boards.


Level 2 means different households will not be able to meet in homes.

Stadium gatherings and events will be banned, other than those which are drive-in.

Venues such as soft play centres, funfairs and theatres will be shut. Cinemas and amusement arcades will remain open.

Pubs will be allowed to open indoors as long as they serve a main meal.

Schools will remain open with enhanced protections in place"
 
I'd be furious to people popping in with no masks..what is wrong with people
I'M just glad now in reference to businesses the governor now she says.
No one enters a busuness unmasked.
Prior to now it was ohhhhh suggest they wear one .offer them one but don't deny
Entry.
Now its nope your not coming in.

They say lots and lots are traveling for Thanksgiving blowing off staying home
Testing is all gridlocked with asymptomatic people that plan on
Traveling anyway.

You cant get a straight story on anything or the real true numbers.

A second article said if asymptomatic had it prior
And just non transmitting fragments remainedin a persons system The pcr test keeps replicating til it gets enough to test producing a false positive.
One can only hope that is the case with exploding numbers.

But this virus ia becoming like the butter margarine debate.
One article says ohh eat butter its better
For you. Next week it changes to
Ohhhhh NOOOOOO eat matgarine.

I just treat everyone in stores ...everywhere
Like they are positive..
 
Can't believe they are planning to let a few houses form a bubble for a whole week over Christmas ? Christmas Eve is one of the busiest days at my work out of the whole year. So all those people mingling potentially catching it. Then going to spend a week with their elderly relatives and another household. Lockdown 3.0 in January then! If it's legal I can't exactly say no very easily to visiting my boyfriend's family. I'd already planned not to see mine, they are caring for my grandma and mum is vunerable. I've seen them approx twice since Feb just from outside and at a distance but it's fine as I know I'm doing so to protect them.
 
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I believe, wrongly or rightly, that they're doing it as a popularity thing @Ale - they don't want to be the government that cancelled Christmas. It's utter madness though, and like you I think it will bring about a massive lockdown in January, though that won't save the people already infected as a result of such idiocy. I don't want to go and have dinner with my parents when the cost is possibly their lives! The majority of people in this country don't celebrate Christmas for it's religious meaning, so why not move it back to, say, May when hopefully a vaccine will be having some impact and also people can gather outside more?
 
If you love your family and friends and want to protect them, you wont get together over christmas.

I can see people saying i havent seen my family this year so i had to see them. It wasnt right not to give them there christmas present. Wait for all the excuses to come out.

Off course the virus numbers probably wont go up till mid january. Just as the schools colleges are going back. So theyll blame the increased numbers on that. Rather than the family get together.
Lockdown will probably be end of january, i expect theyll wait and see if numbers go up and down through December after this lockdown.
 
I’m not planning to see my family for Xmas, so instead I’ve offered to take the boys to visit a couple of families who have fallen on hard times through this as a Xmas present of a little pony party. I’ve asked the local church if they can put me in touch with suitable families.
 
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