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Skib

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Totally agree Chunky Munkey.
Gas masks were scarey. I remember screaming . However, one didnt have to wear them all day. The gas masks in 1938 or 1939 were to prepare for the contingency of a gas attack in a bombing raid. That never happened. But it meant that the warning siren sounded and it was a practice, gas masks went on, everyone for a short period. Till the all clear sounded.
Everyone was supplied with a gas mask and children being evacuated from big cities in 1939 took their masks with them; you can see the masks hanging from their necks in photographs.

Little children had Mickey Mouse masks. I remained equally terrified of the old Mickey Mouse films my Dad tried to show us on his hand turned projector. Even after the war had ended.

There was in fact a good deal of chaos, defeat and government muddle in the UK at the beginning of WW2. OH has just bought a book on the early years of WW2.
Britain's War: Into Battle, 1937-1941 by Daniel Todman
He says that people looked out for themselves and government guidance was not always followed. e.g. people sought shelter in the Underground stations which the government had forbidden.

Last Spring we certainly thought of WW2, that it might be quite long term and that, if our parents had endured the shortages and separations, then people could today. But society then was more divided by class. Most adults either had work to do in war industries or essential services, or were conscripted. I had a Nanny (medically unfit to serve) and my mum worked in a canteen serving lunch to workers from a new factory set up on the local playing fields.

Children below school age were put in day nurseries so their mothers could work. One still had to pay for any education after the age of 14. And there was no national health.

There was snooping on neighbours. There were air raid wardens for each area and police used bicycles then so were locally well known.
That is rather a long post sorry.
 

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My mum worked in London during part of the war. From what she recounted to me, we should all be ashamed if ourselves, for the namby pambies we've become. She always said the reason we won the war was because the enemy just didn't get us as a nation. For example the use of Lord haw haw in enemy propaganda - she said everyone thought he was hilarious, and was treated as a huge joke. Towards the end of the war, she and my father sailed to India, (I think he was 1st officer, not captain yet) and as they sailed, she would hear occasional distant booms. She asked my dad what they were, and he said "Nothing to worry about dear, it's just the depth charges" Apparently that put her mind at rest :eek: And we're having the screaming ab dabs about lockdowns and masks 🙇‍♀️
 

Huggy

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Mine too. I made one (Quite good actually) from a YouTube vid, and also have a rather fetching camouflage one - for those forest walks, don't you know!
 

newforest

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Let's see what the pm decides to do Tuesday.
Though it's the testing system that's let us down isn't it? So the track and trace also let's us down and do on it goes.
 

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Some people really don't help. Was shopping this morning and was waiting to get to the bread while a woman must have picked up half a dozen loaves to look at and squeeze before deciding which one she wanted. And of course she couldn't look with her mask on, no that had to be pulled right down. Needless to say I decided I didn't want bread! What's the matter with some people? She did everything short of lick it before putting it back on the shelf :mad:
 

newforest

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Some people really don't help. Was shopping this morning and was waiting to get to the bread while a woman must have picked up half a dozen loaves to look at and squeeze before deciding which one she wanted. And of course she couldn't look with her mask on, no that had to be pulled right down. Needless to say I decided I didn't want bread! What's the matter with some people? She did everything short of lick it before putting it back on the shelf :mad:
People either don't realise the pick up and buy guidance, or they don't care.
Though reading the gov website, it's not exactly easy reading!
Why do you need to squeeze all the bread, I just pick up my bagels and move on. Same with fruit, quick look and go.
Horses are meant to be fussy rates, so are we by the sounds of it.
 
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horseandgoatmom

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There have been pandemics as well as climate change.
Its not all human made as politicians want people to think.

Natural climate change has always happened ..we used to be under a glacier.

Fred Flintstone,s foot mobile didn't melt the ice.
Seas have risen and fallen since time began.

The world has its natural ongoing cycles.

We do stupid things like building below sea level and then wonder why it
FLOODS..
Or building right up to the sea edge ON STILTS..
 

Trewsers

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Some people really don't help. Was shopping this morning and was waiting to get to the bread while a woman must have picked up half a dozen loaves to look at and squeeze before deciding which one she wanted. And of course she couldn't look with her mask on, no that had to be pulled right down. Needless to say I decided I didn't want bread! What's the matter with some people? She did everything short of lick it before putting it back on the shelf :mad:

Hell that would have annoyed me! How ruddy rude of her. I don't like people squeezing stuff in supermarkets - it always bugs me. Why do it? Specially bread, seems pointless to me.
 

newforest

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There have been pandemics as well as climate change.
Its not all human made as politicians want people to think.

Natural climate change has always happened ..we used to be under a glacier.

Fred Flintstone,s foot mobile didn't melt the ice.
Seas have risen and fallen since time began.

The world has its natural ongoing cycles.

We do stupid things like building below sea level and then wonder why it
FLOODS..
Or building right up to the sea edge ON STILTS..
Over here they like to build on flood plains. They've built goodness knows how many houses here and all the water goes into the same drains. Except it can't cope, backs up and floods people's houses.
It's not a flash flood add they describe it, it's overloaded drains because we've put too many houses here.
 
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horseandgoatmom

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There are places that should not be built on.. we have flood plains here too

They are not always wet so they get built on
Then comes the time it FLOODS cause its doing what the lay of the land has meant it to do... by mother nature...THEY ACT LIKE ITS A BIG SURPRISE....

We have levy's all along the Mississippi river to stop nature... they breech
Mother nsture wins...and
Lots of property destruction occurs..

There was a huge flood plain we used to pass in Vermont at least they treated it properly it was all farmlands no buildings were in it.. the were all high ground
Spring time it all flooded got river silt and was really rich farmland for corn etc.
 

chunky monkey

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You sure you didnt see me shopping, oh no you said this morning i went this afternoon.
Puts my hand up, do you know i was guilt of squeezing the loaves today. Cos they were rock hard so very much stale. You can quite often tell how fresh those cut loaves are by how easy they squish.

I try not to touch stuff, just grab and go. But i picked up some fruit the other week and put it in my trolley. I didnt realise till id done more shopping and had to move it in the trolley that it was all rotten underneath. When i went back to get another packet i realised that there were loads that were rotten underneath. Sometimes you do need to sift through and check the packets.
 
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