I realise I have no idea what is actually meant by any of this. I tend to just assume that it is a fancy name for some peculiar PP theory. Anyone able to explain it, and does it make sense/ have a purpose in your eyes?
Left brain introvert right brain extrovert....what exactly IS IT?
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The point is to work your horse into the middle or towards LB, so you don't have any boxes checked in the RB area.
It's intent is to help the masses understand what that good trainer already knows.
It's the same thing most good trainers have a sense for. Horse A responds well to pressure, Horse B runs off with pressure, a good trainer will adjust their techniques appropriately.
It's intent is to help the masses understand what that good trainer already knows.
It's based on the left brain/right brain stuff for humans which itself hasn't been proven. Cynics would say that it's another thing for the Parellis to use to be different in order to swell their coffers.
Personally I think that it's a load of rubbish.
Personally I think that it's a load of rubbish.
Funny, the NLP 'people' use the 4 quadrants too in their techniques for helping with confidence - so proven or not, there must be something in it cos thaey adapt their 'teaching ways' to suit the individual.
The fact that P has recognised that horses too have different personalities and therefore learn/react in different ways to similar situations, is a big learning tool for the rest of us. Yes, you may argue how it is labelled but then would a tree be a tree or should it have been called something else!
P has recently released some fantastic footage of the main 4 different 'types' of horsenality (or call it what you will). This footage clearly demonstrates the massive differences in the reactions of the different horses, and he is very clear how he adapts his body language/communication to achieve the same results with them.
I was taught Old School. We were taught "if horse does this, you do that".... I am now more educated, open minded and hugely aware that this is not necessarily the case.
If you want to know the RBI, RBE, LBI, LBE theory better then have a read on the P website (you do not need to be a member to access this info)
I thought that was just common sense, about different horse reacting in different ways?
It does make more sense to me now, but it sounds like the stuff my RI taught me dressed up in fancy clothes
.....true, but the BHS didnt teach these things! (Dunno if they've changed....)
It was very much "horse does this you do that..."
Reckon its a good thing to have knowledge of before embarking in horses'.
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I presume it's an attempt to categorise different types of horse so you can work with them in a more appropriate and effective manner. How good and accurate it actually is may be another question, but at least it hopefully steers people away from a cookie cutter approach.
Do you know of anywhere else this information is in print or on video complete with a full, concise and thorough explanation about what to look for, how to deal with, what not to do etc? I havent. Even my original BHS instructor never taught me this amount of excellent info.
Well my instructor tailored her teaching for my girl. Everything was very much along the lines of 'suggesting' it to her and then allowing her to follow through. My instructor always said that she was very smart and very sensitive, so could pick things up like lightning, but because of this also got very upset if she couldn't do something. My instructor taught me to be patient and gentle when schooling her (took a while to sink in, but I was only 11 when I got her
) and not to persist with something she was really struggling with. Essentially, she took stock of Lou's 'personality' and adjusted her teaching methods to accomodate this. This sounds to me essentially what you've described in PP's methods, except it was never given any fancy names. I didn't think my RI was unique in this, but I could be wrong? I didn't realise people needed a written guide to explain that every horse is different, though I do get your point that, for a lot of people, it is useful to have a guide as to how to approach work with different horses....dont lose this unique person!!!!! I havent come across another who has that insight.....not yet, anyway........
Don't think you're generalizing much, do you?
I may not be BHS, but I'm taught by a pretty old-school instructor. She's the first to admit she has a "goody bag", that is, a variety of techniques she can use depending on what the horse reacts to. And she teaches them to pretty much everyone she teaches, if they're needed (mostly just by me, because I'm the only one that rides the young ones and rehabbed a middle aged neglect case).
As for the PP LB/RB crap... Well, if we're all for treating horses as individuals, why pigeonhole them into one of four categories? Labels are for jars.
I have been taught by 3 RI's and my mum and nan and all of them taught me to treat each horse as an individual and all were as traditional as they come.
I have come across many, many people who have tailored their training to the individual animal. Be it horse, dog, cat or something else. It's nothing new.
I'll agree that there seem to be many folk who use the "one size fits all" approach. But the concept of animals having different "personalities" for want of a better word, and needing to be treated differently is nothing new.
It's simply that someone has written it down.
It's like childcare. People have been bringing children up sucessfully for years, getting them potty trained, weaning them, getting them sleeping through the night, breastfeeding.......................etc etc
But now, there are books out there to tell you "how to do it". But again, the advice in them is nothing new. However a lot of people are making a lot of money.
I'll agree that there seem to be many folk who use the "one size fits all" approach. But the concept of animals having different "personalities" for want of a better word, and needing to be treated differently is nothing new.
It's simply that someone has written it down.
It's like childcare. People have been bringing children up sucessfully for years, getting them potty trained, weaning them, getting them sleeping through the night, breastfeeding.......................etc etc
But now, there are books out there to tell you "how to do it". But again, the advice in them is nothing new. However a lot of people are making a lot of money
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I write from experience. In my last lesson, there were 4 horses. all entirely different yet, the (BHSI) Instructor all told us exactly the same.
Previous to that, I'd had a one to one with an FBHS instructor. Told me to do certain things with my horse. Wasnt happy with the lesson, anyhows did as told afterwards and practised what I'd been preached. No improvement. Now, having read up on my horses' 'type' have adopted a totally opposite approach and bingo, have happy willing horse.
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I agree, anyone with any sensitivity will use different approaches in different situations. All the horseanality stuff does is try and codify it in a relatively simple way, it's far from new and just adds another layer of jargon for the converted to bandy about between themselves
That statement clearly shows me you are the one talking """" and dont know what is now widely available about the subject. You dont pigeonhole anything. It is finding the innate characteristics, and then good info is given in the best way to get the different types of horses to be your partner.
Proof is in the pudding. It works.
I wish I could make a decent living out of something I am passionate about rather than 'just having a job' .....jealousy springs to mind. (not picking on you Rhein, lots of others' have made the same comment)
Maybe so, but you haven't experienced every instructor in the BHS or outside of Parelli, and therefore, you're still generalizing. From my experience, natural horsemanship folk are whiny wimps that faff about and think of their horses as fluffy bunny rabbits rather than horses. But I'd never say that seriously, because that's generalizing, and I know it's not true.
In short my point is: anecdote does not equal data.
I never said I had. I did say....
..and that is how I did my exams. They passed you if you did as you had been taught no matter the horse you were on, and failed you if not. As I also said, "dunno if it has changed", but recent lessons suggest it hasnt!
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