The stupid hunt ....

  • Thread starter Thread starter Guest 2
  • Start date Start date
hedgehunter78 said:
Its comment like this that really wind me up....ok so you dont want to sound like your total anti and starting arguments then you post sommat like this.Why do you need to hang your head in shame?
If you didnt want to end up with the hunt why didnt you move away?
Click to expand...

The hang head in shame is meant to be before the also, as in that he is not fit... my fault but was rather tired and had just got in froim work :p

If I wind you up then I am sorry, but your post was fairly rude and blunt, however as I say it was my fault that I didn't check over my post. Also have you tried not to join in when the hunt is going past, pony was going with or without me and I did leave when i could, pony just wanted to go with the others.
 
Last edited:
Yann said:
So why all the fuss about taking the fox out of the equation then?
Click to expand...
Quite!

Playing Devil's Advocate here... If foxes are so horrid and evil, have so much impact on farmer/smallholder livelihoods, cause untold suffering to domestic livestock, don't seem to make any difference to the numbers of rabbits, carry diseases, end up having rather unpleasant lives because they get mangey etc., and are utterly verminous - why don't we embark on a full-scale fox eradication programme? What possible downsides could there be to that?
 
Liz1949 said:
Well, last i heard, people keep cows, sheep, pigs, goats, camels, buffalo, bison, rabbits, horses, guinea-pigs, yaks and reindeer TO EAT (and that's just a selection of the mammals), so why not keep deer? Venison is very tasty - even though Bambi is one of my favourite films.
Click to expand...

Yeah i wasn't saying i had a problem with it lol, just didn't realise they were actually hunting it to eat it that's all...
 
camel said:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N9_YhKbrhnY

How can anyone condone this - disgraceful!! ;)

xx
Click to expand...

LOL that's brilliant!
The only thing that gets me is when people who have never been hunting try to tell you "It's just the same as a funride" "It's just the same as XC" and i did do that before i went. I hold my hands up to being very tunnel visioned about hunting before i actually went.

Every was really really nice, i actually ended up leaving the couple of regulars i'd gone with and ended up right up the front near the master and everyone was so so nice. I have onyl ever met one person that stood upto the stereotype of people who hunt, but to be fair ithink Nimby was annoying her i know he was annoying me.

And the thrill of it is hard to explain to anyone who's never been, but trust me it's nothing like a funride :)
 
We have about forty chickens here at home, plus about a dozen ducks and geese. I feel it is my resposibility to keep them safe from predators, and if a fox got some, it is MY fault, not the fox's. An animal has no sense of property and has no idea that it is upsetting someone by its actions. Yes they do kill in a frenzy when surrounded by lots of hens, but so would my dog. It is an animal. It suits pro hunters to demonise it for their cause, although this never seemed to happen with staghunting.. I lived on a large dairy farm and also looked after hunters when I trained for my AI so I am certainly not ignorant. I know the farm was asked NOT to shoot foxes because the numbers in the area were a bit low for the local hunts liking. Personally shooting or trapping and shooting are by far the most efficient pest control methods, which are practiced all over the world on all types of animal. The suffering argument against it is rubbish, if you are not a good shot, you should not be in the pest control business.
 
Well, all this talk of hunting must be getting to me! lol, last night I had the most vivid dream I'd been asked to join a hunt and of course I said yes - and when I got there, Storm hadn't been plaited up and her mane was scraggly and the hunt secretary told me off! And, my only pair of black boots were dull and covered in mud, my OH couldn't fasten his stock, neither of us could find our gloves or bp's and my hat had no chinstrap?! Oh, and to top it off, I set off, and we ended up outside the co-op up town!!!!! Sorry, just wanted to share...................oh, and the whole day apparently cost us £19 each - but neither OH nor myself could find any money, we had to pay in crackers..........
 
I know the farm was asked NOT to shoot foxes because the numbers in the area were a bit low for the local hunts liking.
Click to expand...

I've had this one 'from the horse's mouth' too so to speak, rubbishes all the pest control arguments somewhat...
 
Trewsers said:
Well, all this talk of hunting must be getting to me! lol, last night I had the most vivid dream I'd been asked to join a hunt and of course I said yes - and when I got there, Storm hadn't been plaited up and her mane was scraggly and the hunt secretary told me off! And, my only pair of black boots were dull and covered in mud, my OH couldn't fasten his stock, neither of us could find our gloves or bp's and my hat had no chinstrap?! Oh, and to top it off, I set off, and we ended up outside the co-op up town!!!!! Sorry, just wanted to share...................oh, and the whole day apparently cost us £19 each - but neither OH nor myself could find any money, we had to pay in crackers..........
Click to expand...

That made me laugh, are you starting to get excited by the thought of Christmas by any chance? (crackers reference) Aren't dreams funny things :p
 
Yes, dreams are funny things - honestly, I spend too much time on here reading all the posts and thinking them over! Indeed, crackers!!! Oh, not sure about hats without chinstraps - I've seen them used in dressage?
 
hedgehunter78 said:
Why not drag hunt.....Dont see the point:confused:
To me it just seems a good old jolly round farmers fields,if i wanted that i would take my horse round a x country trail.
I liked to see hounds work when we were in hunt service.
Click to expand...

The drag hunts I attended usually lasted two to three hours. They covered a wide area of land with plenty of artificial jumps, hedges and ditches included. Apart from this type of hunting being faster and including more obstacles than foxhunting, I can’t really see much difference between the two (apart from the obvious).

The hunt I followed bred foxhounds that worked by following an artificial scent in exactly the same way as hounds follow a natural scent when foxhunting, so I’m not sure what you mean by “I liked to see hounds work”. :confused:
 
We live in the middle of nowhere, no cars etc ever come past.

We've lost 2 much loved cats in 16 years, both last seen on a Monday morning and not there on Monday night.

Coincidentally, the hunt rides in our area on a Monday. But of course the hounds NEVER chase anything but foxes do they?:mad:

On another occasion I was at a clay shoot and the hounds were out (no horses). Two hounds chased a deer and when I complained I was told the hounds would be destroyed when they returned (totally ignored the hound master's comands).

Good on him for taking responsibility, but not the dogs fault for following their instincts to chase.
 
ameliet1971 said:
The drag hunts I attended usually lasted two to three hours. They covered a wide area of land with plenty of artificial jumps, hedges and ditches included. Apart from this type of hunting being faster and including more obstacles than foxhunting, I can’t really see much difference between the two (apart from the obvious).

The hunt I followed bred foxhounds that worked by following an artificial scent in exactly the same way as hounds follow a natural scent when foxhunting, so I’m not sure what you mean by “I liked to see hounds work”. :confused:
Click to expand...


When i say i liked to see the hounds work,i ment -hounds that we had bred in kennels-its nice to watch them growing up,from being out with puppy walkers-to joining the rest of the pack on a days hunting.
 
Cate Ged said:
. Also have you tried not to join in when the hunt is going past, pony was going with or without me and I did leave when i could, pony just wanted to go with the others.
Click to expand...

No i havnt tried to join in when the hunt is going past,as when we were in hunt service(working for the hunt)I was hunt groom so i did the horses which included doing 2nd horses(taking the hunsman-my other half and the master a fresh horse half way through the day and taking their 1st horses back to the box.
 
I am sorry to hear of problems with the hunts. I don't ride with our local hunt, but I do foot and bike follow and we try to do the best job we can - on a typical day hounds can run for 60 miles or more, which can mean contacting a hell of a lot of farmer/landowners etc and occasionally communication breakdowns occur. If you have had a problem, try contacting the master and explaining and asking if he/she could just send a text/e-mail or call you to let you know they might be in the area. Most will be quite understanding about your predicament.

Many hunts are now having tuition sessions or seminars to remind followers of correct etiquette and we are always reminded that if horses or stock are loose to inform an official as soon as possible.

Just as in any activity things don't always go to plan, hounds can't read maps and may occasionally stray onto land they don't have permission to go onto. In such situations the staff may enter land to turn them back as quickly as possible.

For those of you that have your own neds, don't knock hunting and hunting folk until you try it, we aren't as black as we are painted.
 
Glad this has calmed down a little, if I had to consume as much gin as I did last night reading through this I don't think I could cope! :rolleyes:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
newrider.com
Top Bottom