The stupid hunt ....

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pmsl. ok ok sorry were way off topic... back to hunting... should the breeding of hounds now be stopped?
 
pmsl. ok ok sorry were way off topic... back to hunting... should the breeding of hounds now be stopped?
As long as hunts work within the law, I see no reason for it to be stopped.:)


It would also be intering to read opinions on Francis Burton's earlier post.....

Playing Devil's Advocate here... If foxes are so horrid and evil, have so much impact on farmer/smallholder livelihoods, cause untold suffering to domestic livestock, don't seem to make any difference to the numbers of rabbits, carry diseases, end up having rather unpleasant lives because they get mangey etc., and are utterly verminous - why don't we embark on a full-scale fox eradication programme? What possible downsides could there be to that?

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It's clear that nobody pro hunting in their right mind would favour this, because it's all about entertainment and nothing to do with pest control or conservation.
 
It's clear that nobody pro hunting in their right mind would favour this, because it's all about entertainment and nothing to do with pest control or conservation.

Oh,here we go again,and its only 12.10!
All im gonna say is lots of folk must have get up on the wrong side of the bed today.
 
Oh,here we go again,and its only 12.10!
All im gonna say is lots of folk must have get up on the wrong side of the bed today.

C'mon, can't you do any better than that? :)
 
It's not the actual killing of the fox that I object to - when they are that exhausted and terrified it probably comes as a welcome relief - it's the actual chase beforehand which I find so intolerable and cruel.
If you look at the body weight of a fox---lean and sleek,then look at the body weight of a foxhound--stocky.Therefore any fox that cannot outrun a hound must have had problems health wise anyway which brings me to the kill---When a fox is killed by a pack of hounds the weight of the hounds running into mr fox usually knocks him out anyway-then a nip on the back of the neck finishes him off within seconds!--non of this shredding lark!
In my opinion a fox is more likly to be killed quicker than shooting as there is a chance that you dont shoot it in the right place and so it suffers.
Survival of the fittest.Have you ever seen a fox dieing of mange/...not nice!
 
If you look at the body weight of a fox---lean and sleek,then look at the body weight of a foxhound--stocky

That doesn't follow. I weigh a lot less than Usain Bolt, but that doesn't mean I can outrun him. And fox spotted and shot is hardly comparable to fox chased relentlessly for several miles and then either torn to shreds or not as the case may be timewise. If I was a fox I know which way I'd rather go.

Survival of the fittest.

Either they're a pest that needs eradicating or you're conserving them for your amusement, you can't have it both ways ;)
 
If you look at the body weight of a fox---lean and sleek,then look at the body weight of a foxhound--stocky.Therefore any fox that cannot outrun a hound must have had problems health wise anyway which brings me to the kill---When a fox is killed by a pack of hounds the weight of the hounds running into mr fox usually knocks him out anyway-then a nip on the back of the neck finishes him off within seconds!--non of this shredding lark!
In my opinion a fox is more likly to be killed quicker than shooting as there is a chance that you dont shoot it in the right place and so it suffers.
Survival of the fittest.Have you ever seen a fox dieing of mange/...not nice!

That is not always the case, last night at the yard i was speaking to some people who have been on a hunt, they know im anti but we managed a gentle talk on it, and one girl told me that she wont go again as the last one they actually dug the fox out of there den after being chased miles and then the fox got ripped apart!!! so its not the survival of the fittest at all, its a blood sport and hunters will do anything to see the fox or animal suffer!
 
That is not always the case, last night at the yard i was speaking to some people who have been on a hunt, they know im anti but we managed a gentle talk on it, and one girl told me that she wont go again as the last one they actually dug the fox out of there den after being chased miles and then the fox got ripped apart!!! so its not the survival of the fittest at all, its a blood sport and hunters will do anything to see the fox or animal suffer!
Maybe i should get rid of ALL of my animals/pets if i would do anything to see them suffer?:confused:
 
If you look at the body weight of a fox---lean and sleek,then look at the body weight of a foxhound--stocky.Therefore any fox that cannot outrun a hound must have had problems health wise !
I agree foxes are faster, but they don’t have the stamina of a foxhound. This means that although the fox can initially outrun the hounds, it always becomes exhausted much sooner.

I’m surprised you didn’t know hounds where bred for their stamina.

anyway which brings me to the kill---When a fox is killed by a pack of hounds the weight of the hounds running into mr fox usually knocks him out anyway-then a nip on the back of the neck finishes him off within seconds!--non of this shredding lark!
Not true in every case!!!!!

There's scientific proof that hounds DO NOT kill every fox by a quick "nip" to the back of the neck...some foxes DO suffer an agonising death.
 
Not true in every case!!!!!

There's scientific proof that hounds DO NOT kill every fox by a quick "nip" to the back of the neck...some foxes DO suffer an agonising death.

But there is also scientific eveidence that the adrenalin from being chased acts as a very strong pain killer so the 'agonising death' argument is rubbish. I know of several people who have injured themselves horrifically, including lopping off limbs, but not felt any pain due to the adrenaline rush.
 
Oh, well that makes it all ok then, can I lop off the legs of a few foxhunters then? You won't feel a thing lol....:p
 
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