laminitis now abscess 2

bobcat2009 said:
hi it can be all feet or just one /two. my horse it was both front hooves but he had it in both back as well, but didnt bother him.. only showed up when they where being trimmed. is there any pulse?
tracy
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I've been checking for pulses and cant feel a thing. Heat in rear feet but not in front. I'll take her for a walk after work if the monsoon has finished by then!
I bought one of the horsey mags in Sainsbury's ;ast night and it had a question from a reader about laminitis and it was most interesting to read about all the sugar levels and how the most cropped grass was the worst.
I advised the owners of the pony to muzzle her long before the grass started to grow but they insisted on running sheep and cattle over the paddock on the advice of a local farmer instead even through I had said its not just the quantity of the grass thats the problem. I fear this will not have done the grazing any good at all.
 
mindymoo said:
Hi all, bllody hell, Barneys neck much more cresty than the pics ive just seen, in the winter he stil has a crest but its not so bad, in the summer it gets hard and corrugated like you've said. He has fat pads too,i think he might have that metabolic disorder EMS.
Someone did suggest once he may have cushings?
He is muzzled when he's out and haynet ( not great quality hay ) plus his balancer when he comes in.
I think he needs to go on a pony treadmill :)
The mad thing about it though is that he's never had lammi? doesnt make sense does it?
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Was Barney cut late? It can be to do with that too.

Her neck is less this year, but only because Ive been really strict on diet with her since Nov :) - difference shows in her feet too :) Im hoping that exercise in general will help her neck.
 
clashnoir said:
I've been checking for pulses and cant feel a thing. Heat in rear feet but not in front. I'll take her for a walk after work if the monsoon has finished by then!
I bought one of the horsey mags in Sainsbury's ;ast night and it had a question from a reader about laminitis and it was most interesting to read about all the sugar levels and how the most cropped grass was the worst.
I advised the owners of the pony to muzzle her long before the grass started to grow but they insisted on running sheep and cattle over the paddock on the advice of a local farmer instead even through I had said its not just the quantity of the grass thats the problem. I fear this will not have done the grazing any good at all.
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just keep checking for pulses. raining here to. that means more grass !!!!! will have to look at that horsey mag,
tracy.
 
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vets just been back to check on the pony. OH just called to tell me. Moaned the pony is still too fat and give less hay and get her walking and she'll be able to be turned out with a muzzle and strip grazed soon.
Anyone got any thoughts on this?
 
I also dislike starvation diets. When the body does not recieved enough fuel, it shuts down. This means that it holds on to anything its got - and what fat stores are there are used at a much slower rate than they would normally be used at. On top of that eventually it leads to organ failure.

How they are grazed is a personal choice. I have mine on long grass, unmuzzled at night and in 8-12hrs in the day. But Im lucky that I have such long grass available. She is an absolute pig on bare fields though, even if there is hay.

I may well change to a paddock paradise set up, but not just yet - she moves about enough when grazing due to flies :D
 
clashnoir said:
vets just been back to check on the pony. OH just called to tell me. Moaned the pony is still too fat and give less hay and get her walking and she'll be able to be turned out with a muzzle and strip grazed soon.
Anyone got any thoughts on this?
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please dont give her less hay, and dont leave her without any, if you do you will have other problems with the gut.. mine was to fat and he was never left without hay and he was on haylage.. and i got his weight down, just by giveing small feed 3 times aday. that helps the gut to work . little and often with feed but dont leave without hay..... can not beleave vet has told you to drop the hay down... some vet need to go and update the stuff.. on what they no...
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any if anythink you should give a horse more in hay.. than haylage as there is less goodness in hay. so makes me :mad: when vet tell you that.. my boys is still on 3 small meals aday and as much hay . at nite his haybar is full. and ive got his weight down and is stable and has been over the last 3mths .
tracy
 
bobcat2009 said:
please dont give her less hay, and dont leave her without any, if you do you will have other problems with the gut.. mine was to fat and he was never left without hay and he was on haylage.. and i got his weight down, just by giveing small feed 3 times aday. that helps the gut to work . little and often with feed but dont leave with hay..... can not beleave vet has told you to drop the hay down... some vet need to go and update the stuff.. on what they no...
tracy
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My thought exactly but he also asked me to bring my dog in the next day when I called him at 6.10pm one night. The dog had a broken leg and was in plaster but it had fallen off. I ended up putting it back on myself (it was split in 2 after setting to enable looking at it). Then he said it probably didnt need plastered. I mentioned he probably wouldnt want paid for the plaster then!
I'm rambling but I am following the advise of a few small haynets a day to keep hr digestion going. Going to get the weighttape out tonight to check her weight. She is not fat at all.
 
popularfurball said:
Can you take some photos and upload? Bum view, each side, and front on( chest) and then an "over the top of the back" type view
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I'll try. I'll take the camera down with me tonight.
Will you be able to tell a lot from that? Excuse my ignorance!
I feel I know more about dogs than horses these days but I'm swotting up!
considering she's an exmoor cross of some sort I think she is looking good. She was also riddled with worms so thats maybe helped her weight issues.
I have taken over her worming now I have a horse on site too so hopefully she wont be like that again.
 
clashnoir said:
My thought exactly but he also asked me to bring my dog in the next day when I called him at 6.10pm one night. The dog had a broken leg and was in plaster but it had fallen off. I ended up putting it back on myself (it was split in 2 after setting to enable looking at it). Then he said it probably didnt need plastered. I mentioned he probably wouldnt want paid for the plaster then!
I'm rambling but I am following the advise of a few small haynets a day to keep hr digestion going. Going to get the weighttape out tonight to check her weight. She is not fat at all.
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vets :mad: weighttape is a great idea, thats what i have got i check on bobs wieght everyweek and write it in a book so you can keep an eye on it.even right down amount of hay given daily, and feed i did ive got everythink written down since last jan 2009 when he went down with it. and where things went wrong so you dont repeat somethink that went wrong.
tracy
 
clashnoir said:
I'll try. I'll take the camera down with me tonight.
Will you be able to tell a lot from that? Excuse my ignorance!
I feel I know more about dogs than horses these days but I'm swotting up!
considering she's an exmoor cross of some sort I think she is looking good. She was also riddled with worms so thats maybe helped her weight issues.
I have taken over her worming now I have a horse on site too so hopefully she wont be like that again.
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re worming you could take a poo stample to vet for testing, its around £8 i think! because sometime worming them can make them more stressed and that can bring on an attack... so if you get a test. that will tell you whats worms and if any ? thats what i have to do.. because worming dosent agree with bobs and bring on an attack.. i was the same as you last year didnt no i thing, about lammi or horses.. just how quick you have to learn :)
 
I have been keeping a rough diary too.
I dont weigh the hay. Its been square bales and been feeding 3-4 section a day. But got a round bale today and not sure how to weight it.
I'll order some scales. The vet said 2-3" section a day. Surely a rabbit wouldnt survive on that?
 
clashnoir said:
I have been keeping a rough diary too.
I dont weigh the hay. Its been square bales and been feeding 3-4 section a day. But got a round bale today and not sure how to weight it.
I'll order some scales. The vet said 2-3" section a day. Surely a rabbit wouldnt survive on that?
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it wouldnt !
if it helps the Equine podiatry how trim's bobs hooves he has a great website its www.unshod.co.uk have a read
tracy
 
My shetland had 3 slices of soaked hay twice a day. He always had some left over which was chucked out when new net went in.
He wasn't overweight to start with but lost weight on this regime.
 
I was using the small rectangle bales, which I was feeding 3-4 sections a day of.... about a bale and a half a week, if not a bit less. A large tub trug held (un shaken out) about 3lbs of hay (I put hay in tub trug to weight it as she is fed from te floor)
 
I dont weigh the hay, or soak as i have the pre-pack now bobs will not eat the hay you have to soak, and if i didnt soak it gets on his chest.
 
clashnoir said:
The pony has never been shod to my knowledge but the farrier is attanding her.
I missed him last time or would have discussed her feet with him.
He is back in 6 weeks and will be doing my dobbin too so will have a chat with him.
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mine was shod when i got him. but will never be again.. what area are you in?
 
popularfurball said:
I was using the small rectangle bales, which I was feeding 3-4 sections a day of.... about a bale and a half a week, if not a bit less. A large tub trug held (un shaken out) about 3lbs of hay (I put hay in tub trug to weight it as she is fed from te floor)
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That sounds similar to my useage.Not overdoing it but its more than the vet advised. She also gets a handful of Hi Fi Lite morning and night with her anti inflammatory in it
 
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